Questions About German Shepherd Dogs

[John Moon]

Well, sometimes I learn slow and other

Please stop trolling! ^^^ your comments, not mine.

times much quicker.

I did not know it then when I made that starter thread but after doing a little homework on line I am now swayed toward acceptance of blasting the damn yappers away. I just learned a little while ago how they can kill children and pet dogs which I so love. I know it now. Coyotes are OK to get rid of for pleasure since they do more harm than good to the environment.

So, please disregard my former sentiments that coyotes maybe should not be hunted for fun.

I now figure that the CA fish n game department is not regulating them for a reason.

The snakes and owls will take care of the dirty mice anyway.

[Annex138]

This guy cracks me up. This is the most action hunting and fishing has seen in a long time.

[Sleighter]

Well, sometimes I learn slow and other times much quicker.

Obviously not that fast. STOP STARTING YOUR SENTENCES IN THE TITLE FIELD! JUST TYPE IN THE MESSAGE FIELD!

[winxp_man]

[Sleighter]

Is there any law in the Coyote Hunter's Bible that says a well-trained Shepherd would not be worth a damn for decoying yotes?

WTF are you talking about using your dogs as coyote decoys? How did you go from predator hunting being unethical to using a pet dog as bait? I really want to believe that you have good intentions and are just ignorant, but its getting hard. How old are you?

[uhlan1]

Is there any reason under the sun or moon why a German Shepherd cannot accompany a guy out in the field with a sporting long gun in his hand? I plan to own a pair of dogs in the future. I want German Shepherds at home as watch dogs because sporting/hound breeds don't make the best watch dogs. I have owned Labrador Retrievers in the past but they are not good protection dogs. Black Labs, however, may look somewhat intimidating and will bark loud however to often scare away strangers approaching the house. I don't want to spend a lot of money to own a bunch of different dogs specialized for one thing only. I seek versatlity in everything I consider buying whether it be guns, camping equipment, vehicles and dogs.

Is there any law in the Coyote Hunter's Bible that says a well-trained Shepherd would not be worth a damn for decoying yotes? Is there any law that says my Shepherd cannot accompany me on a ground squirrel or rock chuck hunt though the animal may have no function in that endeavor? I am a dog-loving fellow and would like to include my pooches in as much outdoor adventure as possible.

How many of you hunters/varminters/casual outdoor shooters/plinkers here have Shepherds and have found a place in the field for them and yourselves?

You want to use a GSD as a decoy for coyotes? What a piece of work you are.

[DirtyDave]

Not defending John Moon in any way. But Some of you guys have NO IDEA what a Decoy dog is and how they are used for Yote hunting. A shepard could make a great decoy dog, but like any hunting dog, training is everything.

[tpuig]

Yeah, I was going to chime in here that I use my GSD when I pheasant hunt all the time.

When I asked a DFG buddy specifically about taking my dog into the field as a companion when I hunt other animals, his response was that it was fine, as long as the dog wasn't used in the pursuit.

Ummm, should be an interesting thread...

[DirtyDave]

Yeah, I was going to chime in here that I use my GSD when I pheasant hunt all the time.

When I asked a DFG buddy specifically about taking my dog into the field as a companion when I hunt other animals, his response was that it was fine, as long as the dog wasn't used in the pursuit.

Ummm, should be an interesting thread...

You can use dogs on MOST species in CA. Non-Game, Small Game, Upland Game, Waterfowl, Deer (not in archery season) and Pigs.

[Ninety]

Why is it so "cool" to wear camo to hunt with these days?
I don't think it safe as you are more likely to get shot in the field.
It makes it harder to be seen by other hunters.

My NRA hunting safety instructor said that camo was silly. Hunters
should wear blaze orange instead. Wild animals can't see blaze
orange anyway because it does not exist in nature.

Camo may make hunters look juvenile in the eyes of the
general pubic.

It also looks juvenile to many to tie a deer onto a car fender.

Hunters should strive to have the image of respectible gents
to protect the sport.

good for the ecology? They are a predator, you know. They do clean-up for Mother Nature. I can only see shooting them if they threaten man or domestic animals.

How is shooting coyotes in the wild productive?

Coyotes kill mice which rodents I really hate.

http://www.ehow.com/how_2212944_shoot-deer.html

The above does not take into consideration the angle of the shot so it might not be wise to follow the above.


This video does not take into account shots at 45-degree angles: just broadside saying aim just behind the shoulder and front dead on saying to aim for the brisket.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTOeUair3vE

I say Number Two: what do you say?

I have already learned in the past that 1 and 4 are a no-no: gut-shot bolting deer.

Perfectly broadside out in the open is the ideal presentation but it does not happen so much. A deer facing perfectly frontal is less ideal than broadside but still better than a quartering shot. If the deer's patoot is facing the hunter squarley, that is a shot to absolutely pass up. Deer are most likely to face a hunter at a caddy-corner angle of some degree.

Number 5 might cause the bullet to try to punch through heavy shoulder bone but a hard-hitter like a .30-06 that is well-constructed should
punch through easily to the vitals.

Perhaps, you folks have a good resource that covers all the possible angles of deer shooting.

(clones/variants included) for American civilians:

Here are mine (most are practical reasons):

1. home defense
2. personal protection
3. security against possible armed invaders
4. varminting
5. competition
6. collecting
7. hunting
8. business security
9. being fashionable
10. looking cool
11. agricultural pest control
12. rifle training/practice
13. Our Constitution says American citizens have the right to own them!
14. to stop the Adam Lanzas of the world if politicians would only stop being idiots and arm teachers to
save the lives of babies!
15. to keep potential tyrannical "gubmints" in check!
16. a wooden-handled gun can get boring at times

The AR-15 type rifle is familiar to many GI veterans.
It has a high parts availabilty.
It is so highly customizable and versitile.
Its looks are intimidating to intruders.
It has soft recoil if any at all.
It is durable and weather-resistant.


I can't see why the antis say, "You don't need that thing."

It is better to have a gun and not need it than to need it and not have it.

I question this mans motives.

[tpuig]

Think of how many animals we DON"T see when they are wearing camo... ;-)