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  • ysr_racer
    Banned
    • Mar 2006
    • 12014

    Braid, mono, floro... Top shot, leader...

    My wife and I are going out on the San Diego next week. They said bring a 30lb rig, and a 40lb rig.

    One rod I have is set up has 50lb braid, with 75 yards of 30lb mono, then I tie on 20 or 30lb floro.

    The other is 65lb braid with 75 yards of 40lb mono.

    My question is, if I tie on 6 feet of 30lb floro both of them, is there any difference?

    Does what's behind the floro matter? Does the fish care what they can't see?

    Thanks
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    sbsyncro
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2014
    • 579

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    • #3
      deckhandmike
      Calguns Addict
      • Jan 2011
      • 8324

      Eh, in 30 and 40 pound rigs a few connections are no biggie as long as they are tied properly. Personally I’d just go fluro to braid. Fluro is no joke more effective. Mono glows like fluorescent lighting underwater. I didn’t believe it till I saw the difference while diving.

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      • #4
        stonefly-2
        Veteran Member
        • Mar 2013
        • 4993

        You gonna be sporting the fly Xtratufs or bringing those gardener boots again?
        What do you call the people that abandoned the agenda of John Kennedy and adopted the agenda of Lee Oswald?

        Pronouns: "Dude" and "Playa".

        https://billstclair.com/Unintended-Consequences.pdf


        I was born under a wandrin star.

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        • #5
          ysr_racer
          Banned
          • Mar 2006
          • 12014

          .


          Christ, now the fish know what kind of shoes I'm wearing?


          Last edited by ysr_racer; 07-11-2018, 6:41 PM.

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          • #6
            stonefly-2
            Veteran Member
            • Mar 2013
            • 4993

            No but the deckies know a cry out for extra help when they see one.

            What they don't know is what it will get them.
            What do you call the people that abandoned the agenda of John Kennedy and adopted the agenda of Lee Oswald?

            Pronouns: "Dude" and "Playa".

            https://billstclair.com/Unintended-Consequences.pdf


            I was born under a wandrin star.

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            • #7
              Dark Hunt
              Member
              • Sep 2016
              • 420

              Tying 30 lb floro on both rigs makes both them both 30 Lb rigs.

              Like it was said above, put 20' of 30 Lb floro directly to the braid on your 30# rig and 20' of 40 Lb floro on your heavier braid.

              Just realize that you have no stretch to act as a shock absorber like you do when you use mono so be careful not to high stick your rod.
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              • #8
                RR.44
                CGSSA Leader
                • Mar 2012
                • 1931

                All good advice, the fewer connections the better. Tie flouro straight to the braid.
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                • #9
                  stonefly-2
                  Veteran Member
                  • Mar 2013
                  • 4993

                  Originally posted by RR.44
                  All good advice, the fewer connections the better. Tie flouro straight to the braid.
                  Yeah but then his reels not full because the 75 yds of mono is gone, i hate a reel that's not full.

                  Pity someone couldn't give him a pointer like this earlier......oh wait.
                  What do you call the people that abandoned the agenda of John Kennedy and adopted the agenda of Lee Oswald?

                  Pronouns: "Dude" and "Playa".

                  https://billstclair.com/Unintended-Consequences.pdf


                  I was born under a wandrin star.

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                  • #10
                    ysr_racer
                    Banned
                    • Mar 2006
                    • 12014

                    Originally posted by Dark Hunt

                    Just realize that you have no stretch to act as a shock absorber like you do when you use mono so be careful not to high stick your rod.
                    That's why I use the 75 yards of mono, I need the stretch

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                    • #11
                      Sinister_Rounds
                      Junior Member
                      • Jul 2011
                      • 47

                      Keep the mono, reels full of spectra do not get the benefit of the stretch from mono. If you do not change your fishing style (or possibly gear)you will pull more hooks. Flouro will make the difference in a finikey bite like we are having now so I would make sure to have it with you on the boat. You can also wait for the captain brief to see what he recommends and don't be afraid to ask a deckhand to help tie a mono to flouro connection. You can also have them check your drags to make sure they are set appropriately. With the bluefin/yellowfin/yellowtail I would fish circle hooks to keep your line out of the fishes mouth. You want to give yourself the best odds, they are getting into some large fish right now and there are large biomasses that are on the verge of blowing up. Get out there and slay them. Don't forget to tip the deckhands if they are giving you some extra help

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                      • #12
                        ysr_racer
                        Banned
                        • Mar 2006
                        • 12014

                        A few years ago, when I first started to get interested in saltwater fishing I posted some questions here, and one of you guys suggested I stay away from braid as a newbie, and in fact gave me the braid/75 yards mono tip.

                        DH Mike, was that you?

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                        • #13
                          ysr_racer
                          Banned
                          • Mar 2006
                          • 12014

                          As I posted in another thread, I've been tying fishing knots for years, so I've got that part covered.

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                          • #14
                            stonefly-2
                            Veteran Member
                            • Mar 2013
                            • 4993

                            Originally posted by ysr_racer
                            As I posted in another thread, I've been tying fishing knots for years, so I've got that part covered.
                            John Collins/ Royal Polaris knot,
                            flouro to braid fast, easy, strong.

                            Good luck on your trip, hope it's a bloody mess.

                            But as to your question, no flouro has the same advantage in that fish can't see it with mono or braid before it.

                            Think of the flouro as a leader, you really only need 3 or 4' and i tie in a new piece if it gets down to 18" or so.

                            Do you "need" it, do you "need" it only when the fish are finicky?

                            Better question is what gets you bit more after all the trouble and expense you went to to be at that rail.
                            Last edited by stonefly-2; 07-11-2018, 8:57 PM.
                            What do you call the people that abandoned the agenda of John Kennedy and adopted the agenda of Lee Oswald?

                            Pronouns: "Dude" and "Playa".

                            https://billstclair.com/Unintended-Consequences.pdf


                            I was born under a wandrin star.

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                            • #15
                              alpha_romeo_XV
                              Veteran Member
                              • Jun 2006
                              • 2880

                              So you need one rig for you and one for your wife. Sounds like a trip to fish kelp paddies with live bait. The size of the bait the boat gets that day is important to line weight and hook size. There more to the game than braid or not to braid.
                              I was on the San Diego a few years ago with 35 other people fishing unproductive paddies, but had the only 3 fish on the boat before anyone else had anything. Why, because I fished 20 # mono with a 20# fluoro leader with a #4 hook with the liveliest bait in the tray. Technique counts and having an old fashioned Jigmaster with quick change spools in a 20# and a 30# has done well for me.

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