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  • #16
    johnthomas
    Calguns Addict
    • Mar 2009
    • 7001

    Originally posted by WiKDMoNKY
    $129.98 + $149.98 = $279.86
    $279.86 x .0775 (Orange County Tax Rate) = $21.69
    $279.86 + $21.69 = $301.55
    $301.55 + $25 (DROS) = $326.55

    Turners charges $5 handling fee on any gun I have bought from them, so I would imagine it would be another $10 ($5 each), bringing the total to $336.55.

    Any questions of quality (not looks) of the Hi-Point handguns, just watch this...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FoWpog5KU4
    Redneck myth busters? lol You might be a redneck if you put a welding helmet to shoot a gun, lol. on
    I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

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    • #17
      WiKDMoNKY
      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
      • Jan 2011
      • 506

      Ya, but if was doing those tests I would want something to cover my face. That ugly little gun takes a serious beating and still keeps on shooting...

      Originally posted by johnthomas
      Redneck myth busters? lol You might be a redneck if you put a welding helmet to shoot a gun, lol. on
      NRA, SAF, GOA GET INVOLVED NOW OR DON'T COMPLAIN LATER!

      "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin 1818

      "A free people ought not only to be armed and disciplined, but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any who might attempt to abuse them, which would include their own government." George Washington 1790

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      • #18
        Scout2Diesel
        Member
        • Jul 2008
        • 463

        Some FFT:

        If its SHTF it is not dress rehersal. Practice with a .22 for the fundamentals. Have her become familiar with 9mm and use it occasionally. By all means have at least a 9mm for opening night. My 80 yr old Mom likes a G19 or 23, with a grip boot, over smaller stuff. And she's real girly.

        And more:

        If you look at the psych of this do your really not want another Glock even if it is a few more $$$.00s?

        Do they make good holsters for HiPoints?

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        • #19
          WiKDMoNKY
          CGN/CGSSA Contributor
          • Jan 2011
          • 506

          We both have taken NRA basic pistol courses (with .22's) and she has shot my G19, M500, AK and AR and she can handle them, but she complains about how it hurts her wrists (G19). I have not had a chance to let her shoot my G23 yet. From what I have read, the .380 should be just perfect for her.




          Yes they do make holsters... http://goo.gl/JLi7V

          Originally posted by Scout2Diesel
          Some FFT:

          If its SHTF it is not dress rehersal. Practice with a .22 for the fundamentals. Have her become familiar with 9mm and use it occasionally. By all means have at least a 9mm for opening night. My 80 yr old Mom likes a G19 or 23, with a grip boot, over smaller stuff. And she's real girly.

          And more:

          If you look at the psych of this do your really not want another Glock even if it is a few more $$$.00s?

          Do they make good holsters for HiPoints?
          Last edited by WiKDMoNKY; 01-25-2012, 2:23 PM.
          NRA, SAF, GOA GET INVOLVED NOW OR DON'T COMPLAIN LATER!

          "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin 1818

          "A free people ought not only to be armed and disciplined, but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any who might attempt to abuse them, which would include their own government." George Washington 1790

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          • #20
            Scout2Diesel
            Member
            • Jul 2008
            • 463

            OMG I'd let her choose. But maybe you should get the Hi Point and eat rice and beans for lunch and buy her a HK P7k3.

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            • #21
              WiKDMoNKY
              CGN/CGSSA Contributor
              • Jan 2011
              • 506

              If she would be more into shooting and not doing it because I do, I would buy her anything she wanted. Since a HP .380 is going to get 200 or so rounds through it (by her) and then put in her GHB and probably not touched again for a long time. I am not spending a lot on it. Now for her night stand gun (if she wanted one) I would get her whatever she wanted.

              Originally posted by Scout2Diesel
              OMG I'd let her choose. But maybe you should get the Hi Point and eat rice and beans for lunch and buy her a HK P7k3.
              NRA, SAF, GOA GET INVOLVED NOW OR DON'T COMPLAIN LATER!

              "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin 1818

              "A free people ought not only to be armed and disciplined, but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any who might attempt to abuse them, which would include their own government." George Washington 1790

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              • #22
                negolien
                Veteran Member
                • Sep 2010
                • 4829

                don't do it

                Originally posted by WiKDMoNKY
                Turner's is having a sale on the Hi-Point 9mm and .380 ($149 and $129, both out the door about $340)n handguns and I was thinking about getting the 9mm for my bag and the .380 for the wife's bag. I know they are cheap guns, but they would just be for the walk/run home in the event of an emergency. My brother has a HP 9mm and I have shot it many times. Although it is ugly and top heavy, it is a sturdy firearm and shoots pretty accurate (even with reloads). I currently have a Glock 19 and I am very comfortable with 9mm, but my wife thinks the 9mm has too much kick (for her), so I was thinking a .380 should work better in her hands. Again, this is just for protection to get back home.

                What are the legalities of having a handgun in my bag in my trunk? I know they need to be in a locked container, but I was thinking I would just take the slide off or maybe putting a cabled gun lock on it. Or should I get a micro vault or just put it in a soft case with a lock on it?

                What is the preferred legal method for having a handgun in a GHB? Also on from a legal standpoint, would i Have to tell an officer that I have it in my bag (properly secured) if asked?

                Thanks in advance!!!
                If you don't have a LTC and aren't going to the range LEAVE YOUR SH*T AT HOME!!! You're just asking to get popped for a felony not to mention what happens if for some reason you have to use it??? Try explaining why you carry a firearm around all the time? Thta's justa bad idea period.
                "Men sleep peacefully in their beds at night because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."

                George Orwell

                http://www.AnySoldier.com

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                • #23
                  paul0660
                  In Memoriam
                  • Jul 2007
                  • 15669

                  Originally posted by negolien
                  If you don't have a LTC and aren't going to the range LEAVE YOUR SH*T AT HOME!!! You're just asking to get popped for a felony not to mention what happens if for some reason you have to use it??? Try explaining why you carry a firearm around all the time? Thta's justa bad idea period.
                  This again? No law against carrying an unloaded gun in the trunk or a locked case 24/7. Not a great idea either, but if you don't have a LTC, and you think through the el cheapo idea, it isn't terrible, imo.
                  *REMOVE THIS PART BEFORE POSTING*

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                  • #24
                    mindwip
                    Senior Member
                    • Mar 2008
                    • 1576

                    NRA Member and Pistol Instructor, CGN/CGF supporter and CRPA Member. Time to put your money where your mouth is.

                    Current goal; become a Appleseed Rifleman.

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                    • #25
                      mindwip
                      Senior Member
                      • Mar 2008
                      • 1576

                      legal forum+
                      NRA Member and Pistol Instructor, CGN/CGF supporter and CRPA Member. Time to put your money where your mouth is.

                      Current goal; become a Appleseed Rifleman.

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                      • #26
                        drifter2be
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2011
                        • 2177

                        As long as it is in a locked case, problem solved, quite frankly even though the trunk is a "locked container" in many situations, imho not putting a handgun in a separate locked container when taking it somewhere is just a bad idea, to easy to put yourself into some kind of legal trouble.
                        Any man who afflicts the human race with ideas must be prepared to see them misunderstood. - H.L Mencken
                        Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side, kid. - Han Solo

                        "Moms Demand Action" sounds less like a gun control group and more like the title of a porn flick from the mid-90s.

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                        • #27
                          drifter2be
                          Senior Member
                          • Jan 2011
                          • 2177

                          Originally posted by negolien
                          If you don't have a LTC and aren't going to the range LEAVE YOUR SH*T AT HOME!!! You're just asking to get popped for a felony not to mention what happens if for some reason you have to use it??? Try explaining why you carry a firearm around all the time? Thta's justa bad idea period.

                          California Penal Code section 12025 does not prevent a citizen of the United States over 18 years of age who is not lawfully prohibited from firearm possession, and who resides or is temporarily in California, from transporting by motor vehicle any pistol, revolver, or other firearm capable of being concealed upon the person provided the firearm is unloaded and stored in a locked container.

                          The term "locked container" means a secure container which is fully enclosed and locked by a padlock, key lock, combination lock, or similar locking device. This includes the trunk of a motor vehicle, but does not include the utility or glove compartment. For more information, refer to California Penal Code Section 12026.1.
                          HANDGUNS Pursuant to California Penal Code section 25610, a United States citizen over 18 years of age who is not prohibited from firearm possession, and who resides or is temporarily in California, may transport by motor vehicle any handgun provided it is unloaded and locked in the vehicle’s trunk or in a locked container. Furthermore, the handgun must be carried directly to or from any motor vehicle for any lawful purpose and, while being carried must be contained within a locked container.


                          If you continue reading it is only 'registered assault weapons" that can only be transported between specified locations, so unless I missed the part where a Hi Point pistol became an assault weapon he should be find traveling with the pistols in the car as long as he follows P.C. 12025.
                          Last edited by drifter2be; 01-25-2012, 4:44 PM. Reason: reference.
                          Any man who afflicts the human race with ideas must be prepared to see them misunderstood. - H.L Mencken
                          Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side, kid. - Han Solo

                          "Moms Demand Action" sounds less like a gun control group and more like the title of a porn flick from the mid-90s.

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                          • #28
                            drifter2be
                            Senior Member
                            • Jan 2011
                            • 2177

                            Originally posted by WiKDMoNKY
                            Also on from a legal standpoint, would i Have to tell an officer that I have it in my bag (properly secured) if asked?

                            Thanks in advance!!!
                            I remember from a previous thread about being pulled over by LEOs and having them ask about drugs or weapons, the best response to give is that you have nothing illegal in the car, supposing your weapons are stored in accordance with the law. Will link the thread if I can find it.
                            Any man who afflicts the human race with ideas must be prepared to see them misunderstood. - H.L Mencken
                            Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side, kid. - Han Solo

                            "Moms Demand Action" sounds less like a gun control group and more like the title of a porn flick from the mid-90s.

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                            • #29
                              Shoobee
                              Banned
                              • Jan 2012
                              • 532

                              Originally posted by drifter2be
                              As long as it is in a locked case, problem solved, quite frankly even though the trunk is a "locked container" in many situations, imho not putting a handgun in a separate locked container when taking it somewhere is just a bad idea, to easy to put yourself into some kind of legal trouble.
                              I take several precautions, when "transporting" firearms --

                              - unloaded (obviously)

                              - trigger lock

                              - locked container

                              - into the trunk

                              - ammo someplace else not in the trunk

                              - keys to all the above on a cord around my neck

                              - 3 free bullets in my shirt pocket not in a speedloader nor magazine nor clip.

                              With all this due care, I cannot imagine the LEOs would have any problems, unless they were making things up as they go (seen that happen).

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                              • #30
                                Shoobee
                                Banned
                                • Jan 2012
                                • 532

                                Originally posted by drifter2be
                                I remember from a previous thread about being pulled over by LEOs and having them ask about drugs or weapons, the best response to give is that you have nothing illegal in the car, supposing your weapons are stored in accordance with the law. Will link the thread if I can find it.
                                Yup, I like that, nothing illegal in the car, and I don't ever drink.

                                That's what you always need to say.

                                I had two lady CHPs pull me over at 2 a.m. one night for no apparent reason on the highway in the middle of nowhere.

                                They said I was driving towards the right in my lane.

                                I explained that I am a motorcyclist as well, and that's how we tend to drive anyway.

                                They asked me if I had been drinking.

                                I told them I do not drink at all.

                                They laughed.

                                They let me go. However it troubled me that CHPs were pulling over traffic for no reason at all in the dark of night in the middle of nowhere. Oakland hoodies could be doing the same thing.
                                Last edited by Shoobee; 01-25-2012, 4:54 PM.

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