Federal Agent Demands Food Storage List from LDS

[Turk]

Move along nothing to see here...

http://oathkeepers.org/oath/2011/12/08/oath-keepers-alert-federal-agents-demand-customer-lists-from-mormon-food-storage-facility/

[wjc]

Couple this with the push by Feds to learn who is buying Army Surplus gear.

[TrailerparkTrash]

Move along nothing to see here...

http://oathkeepers.org/oath/2011/12/...rage-facility/

Turk, im not slamming you at all. Thanks for posting this article. You're just the messenger here. However, i have suspicion with the author of that article and with "Oath Keepers" and their president.... I flat out dont buy this story. What "Federal agents?". From what "agency" were the "men in black" from?

I flat out dont believe it. I could possibly see that hypothetically lets assume its the FBI and they have been following a case about some "home grown Timothy McViegh wanna-be" martyr. Perhaps they know this "suspect" shops at the LDS food supply store and they are trying to get more detailed info and positively identify their man. If they could get a copy of a personal check (with an address and name etc) from the suspect, coupled with his bank info for a future search warrant, then i can see that scenario plausible. Law enforcement probably cant go into the store and ask to see only "one check" or credit card purchase info from one guy withour "burning" their case. So, they seek the store owner to help and "volunteer" any kind of info of "all" customers as a ruse.

Simply wanting a list of customers just to determine whos buying food is silly. Now i admit that i could be wrong about my own theory, but it just seems like more doomsday internet bogus paranoia.

After all, the "article" came from the "oath keepers" own website! Tell me thats not a "slanted" story. That like believing in "Pravda" as the absolute truth when they published and swore that the former Soviet Union was a "good and friendly peace loving regime."

[problemchild]

Guess you didnt get the Memo. Motherland security already published things to look for in home grown terrorists.

Survival gear
Food storage
Returning vets
More than one box of ammo or more than one gun.
etc etc etc...

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The latest Communities Against Terrorism guidelines distributed by the FBI to military surplus stores in the state of Colorado outline specific activities that owners and retail associates should look for when trying to spot terrorist related activity. Much of the suspicious activity listed describes the behavior and shopping list of any modern day prepper:

What should I consider suspicious?

People or groups who:

Provide identification that is inconsistent or suspect or demand identity “privacy”
Insist on paying with cash or uses credit card(s) in different names
Make suspicious comments regarding anti-US, radical theology, vague or cryptic warnings that suggests or appear to endorse the use of violence in support of a cause
Demonstrate interest in uses that do not seem consistent with the intended use of the item being purchased
Possess little knowledge of intended purchase items
Make bulk purchases of items to include:
-Weatherproofed ammunition or match containers
-Meals Ready to Eat
-Night Vision Devices; night flashlights; gas masks
-High capacity magazines
-Bi-pods or tri-pods for rifles
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Turk, im not slamming you at all. Thanks for posting this article. You're just the messenger here. However, i have suspicion with the author of that article and with "Oath Keepers" and their president.... I flat out dont buy this story. What "Federal agents?". From what "agency" were the "men in black" from?

I flat out dont believe it. I could possibly see that hypothetically lets assume its the FBI and they have been following a case about some "home grown Timothy McViegh wanna-be" martyr. Perhaps they know this "suspect" shops at the LDS food supply store and they are trying to get more detailed info and positively identify their man. If they could get a copy of a personal check (with an address and name etc) from the suspect, coupled with his bank info for a future search warrant, then i can see that scenario plausible. Law enforcement probably cant go into the store and ask to see only "one check" or credit card purchase info from one guy withour "burning" their case. So, they seek the store owner to help and "volunteer" any kind of info of "all" customers as a ruse.

Simply wanting a list of customers just to determine whos buying food is silly. Now i admit that i could be wrong about my own theory, but it just seems like more doomsday internet bogus paranoia.

After all, the "article" came from the "oath keepers" own website! Tell me thats not a "slanted" story. That like believing in "Pravda" as the absolute truth when they published and swore that the former Soviet Union was a "good and friendly peace loving regime."

[TheChief]

Cr@p they must love me then

However, no tripod for my rifle, just the M2, but not my rifle

[KevinB]

What a load of crap.

[skyscraper]

Damn they must have this forum on 24/7 watch then! Dont post a SHTF thread or you're a terrorist! lol

[Don Edmondson]

Simple they want the sales tax was told that from the same church i =n Idaho last year. that why they want records without them they cant prove sales for profit. Don

[TrailerparkTrash]

What a load of crap.

I have to second this motion. Posting here on this thread some really pretty "warning" posters from the FBI or anyone else is being paranoid. Again, back to the OP's original posting, the article doesn't say anything except that a "bulk food place" claims, "....SHHHHHHHH, {whispering} ...THE FEDERAL AGENTS, MEN IN BLACK CAME IN HERE AND WANTED TO SEE A LIST OF PEOPLE WHO ARE BUYING LARGE AMOUNTS OF FOOOOOD...SHHHHHHHHHHHHH" Totally lame. I bet it was the same "FEDERAL AGENTS" that are also looking into the person that "leaked" out the TRIPLE TOP SECRET CLASSIFIED information that Area-51 does in fact really exists and that D.B. Cooper is in charge of the dang place!

Posting a poster from the Feds telling retailers these are some "things" to watch out for regarding "whacko's" is totally different than getting all spooked up about "FEDS"
wanting a list of who's buying corn flakes and pinto beans in bulk!

This stuff is almost akin to the crap the U.S. Government said during WWII that all Japanese-Americans were part of the "Land of the Rising Sun" and couldn't be trusted.

Where's my tin foil hat?

[TheChief]

Here's your hat

If there is any truth to an actual request being made, it is not to keep tabs on people, rather more likely for a specific investigation like TPT mentioned.

Put down your hat and step away from the tin foil please.

[Turk]

Turk, im not slamming you at all. Thanks for posting this article. You're just the messenger here. However, i have suspicion with the author of that article and with "Oath Keepers" and their president.... I flat out dont buy this story. What "Federal agents?". From what "agency" were the "men in black" from?

I flat out dont believe it. I could possibly see that hypothetically lets assume its the FBI and they have been following a case about some "home grown Timothy McViegh wanna-be" martyr. Perhaps they know this "suspect" shops at the LDS food supply store and they are trying to get more detailed info and positively identify their man. If they could get a copy of a personal check (with an address and name etc) from the suspect, coupled with his bank info for a future search warrant, then i can see that scenario plausible. Law enforcement probably cant go into the store and ask to see only "one check" or credit card purchase info from one guy withour "burning" their case. So, they seek the store owner to help and "volunteer" any kind of info of "all" customers as a ruse.

Simply wanting a list of customers just to determine whos buying food is silly. Now i admit that i could be wrong about my own theory, but it just seems like more doomsday internet bogus paranoia.

After all, the "article" came from the "oath keepers" own website! Tell me thats not a "slanted" story. That like believing in "Pravda" as the absolute truth when they published and swore that the former Soviet Union was a "good and friendly peace loving regime."

No offense taken . Any time I read/post anything its up to the reader to decide. I always go by what Mom always said "Don't believe anything you hear and only half of what you see".

[problemchild]

Why would Oathkeepers post FUD? These are the guys watching our 6. Police, military and fireman who swore not to jack with us if ordered to do so.

I simply cannot believe that O-K is posting lies.

[meaty-btz]

Everyone has an agenda.

I am not worried about being on a terrorist list, since in 1996 I had my name and data taken down coupled with a radio call about a terrorist (me). I am on a list some where.. We are all on a list somewhere. Compulsive data collectors collect data.

[problemchild]

Watch this video if you watch none other.......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HRZfvtYlCY

FF to 1:00 mins

http://youtu.be/DInGq0mIWro

On a side note........

"Several days ago, with 93 out of 100 Senators in Congress voting for the passage of the National Defense Authorization Act of 2012 containing provisions declaring the governments power to rendition U.S. Citizens to an unknown fate without charge or trial,"

Another side note....

"So it appears the government is stepping up its preparations. The government is now actively seeking contractors to provide services at FEMA camps across the country. This is scarier considering that the Senate just passed the National Defense Authorization Act which allows for the detainment of American citizens who are deemed terrorists. What is it they’re preparing for? Is this an attempt to lock up American citizens who disagree with them?"

Another side note.......

Food now?




"“I just left my neighbors house. Devon is with the National Guard for this area. He just got home from a EDRE (emergency deployment readiness exercise) at the armory. He said that during the exercise 3 companies of infantry were polled by questionare about the drill and it’s purpose. One of the questions was, will you as a member of the Nat. Guard use lethal force against the American public if ordered to do so? One of the men stepped forward and refused to take the poll and explained that it was a moral judgement on his part and that he could not do so. He then placed his weapon on the ground and fell in behind the formation. Devon said it was like a waterfall, Every member layed their weapons on the deck and fell in beside the one lone specialist. This included ALL NCO’s, STAFF NCO’s and SENIOR NCO’s. The only people left in front of the original formation was 3 Capt’s. 2 Lt’s and the BN Commander who was so upset he started having chest pains from yelling and screaming about court martials and disbandment of the unit into other units. Devon is a Mstr.Sgt and he went with his troops and told them that he could not be prouder of any of them. He was floating while he was telling me this. Maybe we have more than just hope on our side. SEMPER FI. my thanks for the honor of being here Robert.”"

[problemchild]

Everyone has an agenda? Who and what are you talking about? How so?

Im not concerned with "the list" as much as what they do with "the list" when they feel the time is right.

Everyone has an agenda.

I am not worried about being on a terrorist list, since in 1996 I had my name and data taken down coupled with a radio call about a terrorist (me). I am on a list some where.. We are all on a list somewhere. Compulsive data collectors collect data.