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  • DTOM CA!
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2009
    • 1060

    complexity-correction-collapse-and-then-reconstruction

    The evolution of change seems to be progressing as stated above! Our society is now in a state of complexity and confusion which is obvious if you listen or watch the experts expound on their reaso…


    This is a good article but I believe most Politicians and wealthy Americans are to invested in the current system to make the changes required to fix our economy. They like the pork, loop holes, tax breaks and endless spending to much to allow the proper fix. When you look at debtclock.org I do not see how we can ever pay the debt down without defaulting or inflating (by a lot). I put most of the blame on Politicians and the Banking (Financial) industry. Because of the complexity most people do not know how bad we are really in debt. The Federal Reserve wont tell us.
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    Ripon83
    Calguns Addict
    • Jan 2011
    • 6686

    Federal reserve just handed banks $4,500,000,000 in a raise on debit card fees. That's a nice take from the little/middle guy and handing it ti the banks we just bailed out. Nice change there from Mr. Hope n Change huh
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      thenodnarb
      Veteran Member
      • May 2009
      • 2603

      Originally posted by Ripon83
      Federal reserve just handed banks $4,500,000,000 in a raise on debit card fees. That's a nice take from the little/middle guy and handing it ti the banks we just bailed out. Nice change there from Mr. Hope n Change huh
      can you explain this a little bit. I heard about the debit card fee thing, but don't know what really happened. Supposedly congress passed a bill that limits CC transactions?

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        Ripon83
        Calguns Addict
        • Jan 2011
        • 6686

        They allowed banks to increase the fees charged for an ATM \ debit transactin from .12 cents to .21 cents. My figure of 4.5 billion comes from the statement made on the news there are 50 billion of these transactions a year or they are approaching that number.

        50,000,000,000 x .09 = $4.5 billion if my math is right - lots of numbers - I get messed up all the time but I think that is right.
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          Californio
          CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
          • Dec 2006
          • 4169

          Whats a Debit Card

          Only a fool uses one of those
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          • #6
            Turk
            Senior Member
            • May 2010
            • 566

            Originally posted by DTOM CA!
            http://kingdomecon.wordpress.com/201...econstruction/

            This is a good article but I believe most Politicians and wealthy Americans are to invested in the current system to make the changes required to fix our economy. They like the pork, loop holes, tax breaks and endless spending to much to allow the proper fix. When you look at debtclock.org I do not see how we can ever pay the debt down without defaulting or inflating (by a lot). I put most of the blame on Politicians and the Banking (Financial) industry. Because of the complexity most people do not know how bad we are really in debt. The Federal Reserve wont tell us.
            That's why it's time for "We The People" . The big question is have enough been woken up to make a difference ?

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            • #7
              thenodnarb
              Veteran Member
              • May 2009
              • 2603

              Originally posted by Ripon83
              They allowed banks to increase the fees charged for an ATM \ debit transactin from .12 cents to .21 cents. My figure of 4.5 billion comes from the statement made on the news there are 50 billion of these transactions a year or they are approaching that number.

              50,000,000,000 x .09 = $4.5 billion if my math is right - lots of numbers - I get messed up all the time but I think that is right.
              I got fooled my the MSM then. I heard they were limiting transaction fees. and it seemed like they were lowering fees. I assumed that that was why all the rewards programs were going bye-bye. There wasn't enough money to pay for them after this legislation. crap.

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              • #8
                Ripon83
                Calguns Addict
                • Jan 2011
                • 6686

                Yes I heard that take on it too. Limited to .21 vs the .12 cents now. That's why MC and Visa lead the rally today....both were up almost 10% and wht not? They just got raises in the billions with no additional effort.
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