Any use for shtf kit or not?

[HK4113]

[QUOTE=IrishPirate;6443866]no it wont. all it will tell you is their pulse, maybe BP, and O2 saturation levels. you can't deduce collapsed lung or internal bleeding from that alone.[/ QUOTE]

I work in an emergency department, so I can take this statement a step further. Say for whatever reason you were able to able to use the pulseox to determine that there was a bleed, say lower GI, and that you were somehow aware of exactly where the bleed was perhaps the colon.

In a SHTF scenario, what are you going to do about it? Are you going to attempt to perform a surgery with no sterile environment, no surgical, knowledge, no anesthesia, no component blood with or without a rapid infuser....etc etc. Even a skilled surgeon would have a hard time to save a patient without the advances in modern medical technology at our disposal today.

[problemchild]

Depends if I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express or not.

But most likely that would be the person we would say a prayer for and hold their hand tell they passed away. Im not going to try and fix anyone. Dont know how, dont want to know how.

Anyway it arrived today in the mail. Im going to use it on my treadmill after I eat a cup of salt and a mug of coffee. Maybe even the exercise bike and camping at high altitude.

Nothing to get worked up about, just thought it may be of use to someone.

[QUOTE=HK4113;6444257]

no it wont. all it will tell you is their pulse, maybe BP, and O2 saturation levels. you can't deduce collapsed lung or internal bleeding from that alone.[/ QUOTE]

I work in an emergency department, so I can take this statement a step further. Say for whatever reason you were able to able to use the pulseox to determine that there was a bleed, say lower GI, and that you were somehow aware of exactly where the bleed was perhaps the colon.

In a SHTF scenario, what are you going to do about it? Are you going to attempt to perform a surgery with no sterile environment, no surgical, knowledge, no anesthesia, no component blood with or without a rapid infuser....etc etc. Even a skilled surgeon would have a hard time to save a patient without the advances in modern medical technology at our disposal today.

[problemchild]

well played sir!!!!

WINNING!

[luckystrike]

just like everything else, could be dead-weight/space but could be useful. you decide.

[cc56]

I think it would be fun to see. Instead of a heart rate monitor at the gym just use that. Also if you go camping see what your O2 sat is at altitude. I wonder how well it works/toughness, I have a Nonin that just keeps going.

[mschliebs]

I actually bought one because when I camp at altitude and wake up in the morning I have a headache. I wanted to monitor my O2 during the night to see if it drops.

Cut the Jim Beam back to two shots. You'll feel better in the morning.

[mschliebs]

Its a pulse oximeter for 30 dollars. Seems like it would have some value if shtf. At least you could tell if someone had a collapsed lung or maybe even internal bleeding. Maybe other things as well. Emt's chime in....

Severly injured people, regrettably, will be moved aside and left to die.

[docsmileyface]

pulse oximeter and stethoscope were the only diagnostic tools I carried in my go to aid bag in Iraq. Pulse ox gives you an accurate and reliable way to monitor a pts core vitals.

[IrishPirate]

pulse oximeter and stethoscope were the only diagnostic tools I carried in my go to aid bag in Iraq. Pulse ox gives you an accurate and reliable way to monitor a pts core vitals.

provided it's a good pulse ox. I'm sure there are some good ones out there, but at $30, i'd be skeptical. sounds like it'll work for what PC wants to use it for, but don't count on it being very useful when the rapture really does come unless you have some medical training!!

[problemchild]

provided it's a good pulse ox. I'm sure there are some good ones out there, but at $30, i'd be skeptical. sounds like it'll work for what PC wants to use it for, but don't count on it being very useful when the rapture really does come unless you have some medical training!!

I read all the reviews on different units. This one was 5 stars and used in Doc's offices among the buyers who cross tested them to pro expensive units and found the readings to be the same. Good enough for me....

[problemchild]

pulse oximeter and stethoscope were the only diagnostic tools I carried in my go to aid bag in Iraq. Pulse ox gives you an accurate and reliable way to monitor a pts core vitals.

Anyone want to flame this person like you flamed me for suggesting this?

Whats that I hear?

Silence?

Like I said it will have some use to some person. Lots of emt, nurses, docs, returning military that know how to use this item. Might be a great barter item for antibiotics etc. For the size and dollar amount its a no brainer for me. Plus I have another use for it if nothing happens.

The section of calguns if for us to share ideas.

[MasterrEugene]

Yeah I know why would it?

193 TRILLION in spending in ---->>>2 years!
Printing of worthless fiat currency
Riots or wars in most major oil producing countries.
Presidency of the USA staffed and controlled by communists.
EXTREME socialist agenda dominates the TV News, children books, college books, teachers, schools.
UN wants to ban guns worldwide among private citizens.
President signs global arms treaty which will eventually ban guns here.
Globalists (Soros, etc) want the downfall of the USA.
And on and on and on..........

I dont see any problems....
Nothing to see here folks move along......

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