Canning up the Honeyville bulk food (pics)

[problemchild]

What scenario are you anticipating that you'll need these kinds of rations or that you see the need to prepare for?
Are you monitoring calories, protiens, carb's, vitamins, etc, or just putting together food that will quell your hunger??
Sincere questions...not trying to be negative other than to say you realize these people are making a fortune off you....

The glass half empty huh? Vitamins are extremely overrated and in fact have been proven to be almost useless if not dangerous. Good quality food far outweighs rite-aid vitamins. I have NEVER taken vitamins in my life. I just eat good quality food. The things I have purchased are far better than 99% of most the garbage in the grocery store.

Why do you say they are making a fortune off me? I have near a years supply of food and I can tell you for a fact that the grocery store used to suck up about $500/month in food cost from me, not going to be that way any more! Now I buy raw cook from scratch food that is much cheaper.

Lets look at 2 items from HV compared to the grocery store.

Grocery store
Rice 5lb bag $ 4.99
Oats 32oz box= $ 5.99

Honeyville
Thick Oats 25lb bag $17.99 (the good oats very expensive, they have cheaper)
Rice 25lb bag $9.29

The prices for 50lb bags are even cheaper, far cheaper than the grocery store. I spent near 1k (actual on food cost was $743 before buckets, mylar, O2 eaters and misc stuff) My bill at the grocery stores for 1 year would be aprox $6,000 dollars and probably much more as prices go up 12% per month now and maybe 12% per week in a few months. I have locked in next years food prices -meat. I will continue to buy fresh meat in bulk 25lb chunks.

You are welcome to continue to be naive and not see the writing on the wall. Your starvation will not effect me at all. Enjoy your food-less shtf.


Let me ask you a few questions.....

Do you have car insurance?
Do you have homeowners insurance?
Do you have medical insurance?
Do you have dental insurance?
Do you have earthquake insurance?
Do you have flood insurance?
Do you own a gun and bullets?
Do you get physicals?
Do you have dental exams?
Do you have vision exams?

Last question for extra credit. If you could have bought gasoline at 1.00 per gallon for the next 10 years in advance would you? (pretend you have storage and it will not spoil, I know its difficult)

[problemchild]

Ok. Wtf do you do with all that. I don't cook. I can read and follow directions but wold die hungry INSIDE the HV store.

That's why I bought dailybread. However it IS low cal count.

Amy good sites/info/books about what/how to use the bulk food storage?? Thanks

Geeshhh its not rocket science. Who cooks for you your mother? There is about 10 trillion recipies on the web print and laminate so you can take care of yourself.

Flour, yeast, sugar, powder margarine and water, heat=bread
16 bean soup mix, TVP beef, water, heat =soup
Hot water, oatmeal, brown sugar = hot oatmeal for breakfast
Cornmeal, water, baking powder and sugar, heat = corn muffins
Pancakes? Really? You dont know how to make pancakes???

[9-12]

I guess you can't answer a few simple questions without talking down to someone? Are you really that miserable a person?
I imagine it's good that you're self sufficient, because with your attiude, I'd tell you to take a hike.

Geeshhh its not rocket science. Who cooks for you your mother? There is about 10 trillion recipies on the web print and laminate so you can take care of yourself. Man up!

Flour, yeast, sugar, powder margarine and water, heat=bread
16 bean soup mix, TVP beef, water, heat =soup
Hot water, oatmeal, brown sugar = hot oatmeal for breakfast
Cornmeal, water, baking powder and sugar, heat = corn muffins
Pancakes? Really? You dont know how to make pancakes???

[1 SIG fan]

Mostly trader joes. Or reatruants. I work aLOT (too much) and time is limited. Free time goes to shooting and prepping.

Man up... = cooking? Cute!

I don't make pancakes I buy em, thaw em or order em. Sorry my skillset isnt cooking

[mschliebs]

Up until two days ago PC ran me down every time I mentioned HVG on this site. His msot recent rant was over the cost of eggs.

I guess you can't answer a few simple questions without talking down to someone? Are you really that miserable a person?
I imagine it's good that you're self sufficient, because with your attiude, I'd tell you to take a hike.

[9-12]

Some people live in areas where there is a very real possibility of being trapped at home for prolonged periods of time just because of weather. Then, factor in other natural disasters and the possibility of human caused problems with distributing supplies to stores, can one ever be completely prepared? Of course, there are also religious reasons and the basic TFH crowd as well. Personally, I try to keep at least a few months worth of food around my home and a few months supply at the family vacation cabin at Tahoe. I don't monitor calories now so, why would I do it with my emergency provisions? For me, it's the same food and I just rotate it.

Thanks for those answers. Sometimes in emergenchy/survival situations energy levels and physical requirements can run elevated. Knowing you're getting enough calories to sustain the energy IMO is helpful, that's all. My comment on vitamines wasn't targeted at taking vitamines...I've never believed in that, just making sure that the foods are nutritious and not just filler for the same reason above, given the possibility of adverse conditionds and requirements. Something really valuable for LT food storage, to me anyway, are dried fruits and canned meats like chicken and/or tuna.
That and some 5 gallon cans of dehydrated water.
Can't you get beans, rice, flour, etc. at places like Costco for a lot less than this place?

Check...I just did a little checking, and it's about the same, maybe a little cheper at Costco so I may stand corrected on that, except for shipping.

Thanks again.

[Joewy]

What scenario are you anticipating that you'll need these kinds of rations or that you see the need to prepare for?
Are you monitoring calories, protiens, carb's, vitamins, etc, or just putting together food that will quell your hunger??
Sincere questions...not trying to be negative other than to say you realize these people are making a fortune off you....

He lives in Long beach. Anything can happen there.

However if you think he has a lot you should see my basement. But Ive lived like this my entire life and everything eventually gets used. You would be very suprised how cheap it is to make your own food. For a fammily of 3 our food cost is less than $120 per month and we eat quite well.
And food that is homemade is much better for you and contains almost none of the crap added to food today.

[IEShooter]

Buckets

Don't forget your oxygen absorbers inside the buckets, ideally inside the sealed mylar bags. This will prolong the life span of the product.

Personally, I prefer the #10 cans. They cost more pound for pound, but the product needs to be used in a set period of time after opening.

My concern is I don't know if I can eat 5 gallons of anything in the time spans involved.

[problemchild]

I guess you can't answer a few simple questions without talking down to someone? Are you really that miserable a person?
I imagine it's good that you're self sufficient, because with your attiude, I'd tell you to take a hike.

Nice SPIN on what just took place.

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What scenario are you anticipating that you'll need these kinds of rations or that you see the need to prepare for?
Are you monitoring calories, protiens, carb's, vitamins, etc, or just putting together food that will quell your hunger?? (Negative)
Sincere questions...not trying to be negative (but your are going to anyway after claiming not to) other than to say you realize these people are making a fortune off you.... (Negative)


You didnt ask a question as much as you took a jab at me and pretended to ask a question by claiming I am eating filler food I paid too much for. Then you have the audacity to come back and call me negative and miserable.

I erased the rest of what I was going to say..........

[rspar]

Don't forget something to cook with. You don't want to tear down your house for fire wood. We have about 150lbs of charcoal probably need twice that, and 4 propane tanks. I'm looking at a thing called a Volcano that you put your dutch ovens in plus the usual bbq and camp stove stuff. Of course water is the big kahuna you really can't have too much of that. And yeah food storage in every possible place around the house but you wouldn't know it.

[Cokebottle]

We stopped by yesterday and priced some stuff, checked out what they had.
Most of the stuff was a pretty good deal, some was high compared to Wally World, specifically pancake mix. 3lb box was $3.40, compared to a box of name-brand mix 2.5lb for about $2 (and yes, I understand the bulk bags are a better value)

Question my wife has, if SHTF, what is the plan? Will you load your BO kit into the truck and get as far as you can, then abandon the vehicle and most of the food supplies to hoof it, or is this strictly a bug-in plan (which is probably the best plan anywhere more than 3 miles from the foothills unless you live in the boonies like CSA where home is "bugged out").

One common thread on the recipes... water/heat. Okay, the solar oven can provide heat in good weather, but how many hundreds of gallons of water would be needed for a year of just sustenance (assuming bathing in the ocean or a lake)?

[problemchild]

Up until two days ago PC ran me down every time I mentioned HVG on this site. His msot recent rant was over the cost of eggs.

There website is MUCH higher priced than the store. I was comparing the website prices which are as much as 40% higher on some items. The store is dirt cheap. You never mentioned the prices on the store being cheaper.

So I ran you down every time? Can you post links to the Every time threads? Are we talking 10 threads or 1?

[mattmansacto]

problemchild
Thank you for the info that you have posted, I only wish that HV was here in Norcal. I guess I will have to make do with COSTCO, WINCO, and WM.

[Joewy]

Don't forget something to cook with. You don't want to tear down your house for fire wood. We have about 150lbs of charcoal probably need twice that, and 4 propane tanks. I'm looking at a thing called a Volcano that you put your dutch ovens in plus the usual bbq and camp stove stuff. Of course water is the big kahuna you really can't have too much of that. And yeah food storage in every possible place around the house but you wouldn't know it.

If you are planning to stay in your home, Propane bottles will work well on your stove. Almost all gas stoves will work on either NG or propane. THe oven is a big maybe but the stove will work. Most ovens need a lot of electricity for the hot surface igniter. You just need propane bottles and a regulator. The installer of the stove should have left the change over kit with the stove but if not just order one.

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What scenario are you anticipating that you'll need these kinds of rations or that you see the need to prepare for?
Are you monitoring calories, protiens, carb's, vitamins, etc, or just putting together food that will quell your hunger?? (Negative)
Sincere questions...not trying to be negative (but your are going to anyway after claiming not to) other than to say you realize these people are making a fortune off you.... (Negative)


You didnt ask a question as much as you took a jab at me and pretended to ask a question by claiming I am eating filler food I paid too much for. Then you have the audacity to come back and call me negative and miserable.

I erased the rest of what I was going to say..........

That's good, because it was probably just as useless as anything you've said up till now.