App to find Public Land. OnX

[hermosabeach]

https://news.yahoo.com/public-land-public-cant-reach-150629280.html

[EsotericEpsilon]

The app itself does not encourage "trespassing" as all it does is give information to the user.
That being said, it's a jerk move when people landlock areas and claim them as their own. There are a few blm spots in socal where that has happened.

[hermosabeach]

I don't know but it would seem like public easement should be recorded or created.

[NoNOS67]

I don't know but it would seem like public easement should be recorded or created.

Agreed. Even when not landlocked, it's incredible how many landowners think they "own" public land adjacent to their property. It gets worse when access is difficult or not well known. I've had a few tense moments where they have tried to run me off over the years.

[audiophil2]

I own property that backs up to landlocked public land. My 10 acres back to almost 1000. There is only utility easements between lots surrounding the public land and there are no utilities so no one can use them. Hunters still trespass and leave garbage. We clean it up. It is almost pristine. Yet alongside the public roads going to my land there is a lot of dumping. Our private properties protect the 1000 acres from dumpers and keep the wildlife and plants healthy. There are caves on that land almost no one knows about.

[Steve45-70]

Yeah I grew up in the Northeast part of California and things have gotten really bad as far as access the last 30 years or so. Seems like everyone has bought their 5-20 acres of paradise and took to blocking roads that we have used for years to access public property. We should of forced the easements to stay open but it was always a little at a time. Lots of landlocked property. I also grew up around and working for ranchers. It is amazing how many think that because they have a BLM or Forest Service permit to run cattle they own the property. Had several heated arguments over the years.

I know the public sucks sometimes but it is still the publics property. They should be allowed to use it and if there was an easement being used it should stay open. Also really easy to solve the checkerboarding problem and that is to allow access at the corners.

[audiophil2]

Yeah I grew up in the Northeast part of California and things have gotten really bad as far as access the last 30 years or so. Seems like everyone has bought their 5-20 acres of paradise and took to blocking roads that we have used for years to access public property. We should of forced the easements to stay open but it was always a little at a time. Lots of landlocked property. I also grew up around and working for ranchers. It is amazing how many think that because they have a BLM or Forest Service permit to run cattle they own the property. Had several heated arguments over the years.

I know the public sucks sometimes but it is still the publics property. They should be allowed to use it and if there was an easement being used it should stay open. Also really easy to solve the checkerboarding problem and that is to allow access at the corners.

I'd be all for it but the public are scum. The 1% ruin it for everyone else. My neighbor had his gate pulled off so the public could drive through to access a separate blm area north of us. There is no legal way to access it along the road because the terrain drops off to a cliff half a mile before the blm wire. So about 3 or 4 private properties are trespassed by sxs to access a gate that is on the utility easement between the blm and our northernmost neighbor.

They trashed his cabin, his cars, everything in his land while he was not using it the last 20 years. I used to go on his land to explore but never harmed it. After I met him he gave me access to his locks. He installed very heavy duty steel fences and gates in the flat spots along his frontage and left the impassible spots just wire. Time.will tell if the public cuts his locks or rips his gates down again.

I had game cams on my gun range. I have video of brass scrapers taking the brass. No big deal. I have over $1000 in steel targets all over the land. It had no fence it gate and we just hoped no one would steel the targets. The public put beer bottles on our scrap pile of doors and left us with glass all over. The public would rather shoot glass at 10 ft than targets over a 5 acre course. We put up wire and a gate and have not had any issues.

Sorry. I don't want public accessing our landlocked trust land. It is clean. They don't respect private land so they will destroy that patch of public land.

It can be seen on the desert road that leads to the city landfill. $30 minimum to dump so there is construction material and mattresses along the road and next to the landfill for miles.

The other issue is we have 70 combined acres of private gun range. We shoot toward the public land as it is a huge mountain so perfect backstop. We have smaller hills as primary backstops on our land but if there is a stray it goes into the mountain. We are legally allowed to shootnon our land and it is well known the sxs owners intentionally ride in the fire area and then call police to complain. We've had blm area shut down due to sxs people getting shot by strays when they had millions of acres to ride with no shooters around. We can keep our bullets inside our land but it won't stop the public from lying that we are shooting at them. I've had guys walking on that public land and then run onto my land and tell me to stop shooting because they are out hiking. I tell them they had to trespass to get on that trust land and if my stray hits them it is not my fault. I then tell them they are trespassing on my land and to leave via the road and not trespass back onto my neighbors land to get back. One guy even told me it was all public land. I asked him to show.me that on the assessor maps and laughed at him. Another guy said he assumed empty private land was ok to walk on. I told him there are private property signs in 2 languages on all 4 sides. The public lies when they get caught.

[sfpcservice]

The property lines in OnX can be off by hundreds of feet. They are based on county GIS which can also be very inaccurate. The main benefit of OnX is it gives you the tax address of the property owner so you can contact them for permission to use private land.

I own a parcel that is shown both in OnX and county GIS where one of the property lines intersects the next parcel at the wrong corner... The actual markers on the ground done by a surveyor and the PLSS are much different and are the real lines.

[roostersgt]

The property lines in OnX can be off by hundreds of feet. They are based on county GIS which can also be very inaccurate. The main benefit of OnX is it gives you the tax address of the property owner so you can contact them for permission to use private land.

I own a parcel that is shown both in OnX and county GIS where one of the property lines intersects the next parcel at the wrong corner... The actual markers on the ground done by a surveyor and the PLSS are much different and are the real lines.

We don't use it to contact the private property owners for permission. I don't know anyone in our fairly large group who does. We primarily use it to make sure we're on legal ground. Driving for miles down roads that have barbed wire and gates on both sides without other markings necessitates using such an app. Seems every other mile you're either passing through public, or unmarked private property. It all looks the same.

Ranchers can lease thousands of acres from the state and federal government, can fence it off, but can't keep anyone from trespassing during hunting season. The only places on the leased land you can't hunt is the cultivated land,,,ie the green alfalfa. If you hunt Wyoming, where 80%+ of the state is public land backing up and divided by private property, you need the app. DFG and the Sheriff rely 100% on the app when there is a dispute. I honestly can't see the app being 100s of feet off. My experience using it since it came around is its probably within a foot or so. You can test this by following fence lines, hillsides, creeks and rivers on known private property.

Im not saying in your case it isn't wrong, just saying that the people who would arrest you, give you a court date and take your ****, rely on it where I hunt.

[clb]

I use gaia, that said...
If you cannot read a map, stay ho.e please.

[Steve45-70]

We don't use it to contact the private property owners for permission. I don't know anyone in our fairly large group who does. We primarily use it to make sure we're on legal ground. Driving for miles down roads that have barbed wire and gates on both sides without other markings necessitates using such an app. Seems every other mile you're either passing through public, or unmarked private property. It all looks the same.

Ranchers can lease thousands of acres from the state and federal government, can fence it off, but can't keep anyone from trespassing during hunting season. The only places on the leased land you can't hunt is the cultivated land,,,ie the green alfalfa. If you hunt Wyoming, where 80%+ of the state is public land backing up and divided by private property, you need the app. DFG and the Sheriff rely 100% on the app when there is a dispute. I honestly can't see the app being 100s of feet off. My experience using it since it came around is its probably within a foot or so. You can test this by following fence lines, hillsides, creeks and rivers on known private property.

Im not saying in your case it isn't wrong, just saying that the people who would arrest you, give you a court date and take your ****, rely on it where I hunt.

I recently sold a place up in North Eastern California and it is off about 50-75' there. Showed my pump house on the neighbors property and me owning across the county road. Not a big deal as everyone has fences. I agree it is very useful when if comes to knowing where you are and what is public.