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  • Juniork5
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2014
    • 884

    Carry don’t say anything and hope you don’t have to use it and if you do make sure it was your last resort.

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    • igs
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2017
      • 941

      Originally posted by B yond
      What's the likelihood of getting caught illegally ccwing vs the likelihood of needing a weapon? Penalties for each?
      Penalty for the former is a misdemeanor. Penalty for the latter is death. Which would you prefer?
      ATF Form 4473: If a frame or receiver can only be made into a long gun (rifle or shotgun), it is still a frame or receiver, not a handgun or long gun.

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      • Jason95357
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2013
        • 1130

        Link on main page to CA Parks is broken. Here is some good info:



        Can I carry a concealed weapon in a state park if I have a Carrying Concealed Weapon (CCW) permit?
        Possibly yes. The carrying and possession of firearms in California’s state parks is generally prohibited and is only allowed per Title 14 of the California Code of Regulations (CCR), Section 4313.

        Exceptions to this regulation are granted in the California Penal Code Section 25900 pertaining to law enforcement and retired law enforcement personnel, and PC Section 26010 for citizens with Carry Concealed Weapon (CCW) permits. However, any restrictions placed on the CCW by the issuing agency would also be applicable in California’s state parks. For example, if the CCW is only valid in the CCW holder’s city of residence or county, it would not be valid in a state park unit located outside the city or county of the holder. Some CCWs also prohibit carrying in “parks” and this would include state park lands, if that is the case.
        LTCs: CA, OR, AZ, UT, FL, NV
        GOA & NRA Member

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        • buttfish
          Member
          • Mar 2013
          • 497

          So, technically speaking, NO CALIFORNIA law enforcement can "harass" gun owners, while on FEDERAL land.

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          • stoogescv
            Member
            • Mar 2021
            • 244

            Originally posted by buttfish
            So, technically speaking, NO CALIFORNIA law enforcement can "harass" gun owners, while on FEDERAL land.
            Not sure the point being made here. Are you suggesting that if I walked into federal court and shot someone, I couldn't be charged with murder under state law? Because it occurred on federal premises? That would be a bizarre result. A California peace officer has jurisdiction in every inch of the State of California so far as I'm aware, including national parks. Let me know if I'm wrong about that.

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            • ct78
              Member
              • Jan 2020
              • 393

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              • Ishooter
                Senior Member
                • Mar 2010
                • 904

                That's correct. People do that all the times. You can either carry open/concealed on BLM for camping/shooting when you're not in prohibited areas and other criteria.

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                • MudCamper
                  Veteran Member
                  • Mar 2007
                  • 4595

                  I started this thread, but have abandoned it the last several years. Thanks to all those who have stepped in to help others with questions.

                  With the laws getting even more byzantine every year, and with our recent win with Bruen, my most recent personal solution has been to apply for a CA CCW. While that process is dragging out for months, so far it is looking good.

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                  • SWalt
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Jan 2012
                    • 8226

                    Originally posted by MudCamper
                    I started this thread, but have abandoned it the last several years. Thanks to all those who have stepped in to help others with questions.

                    With the laws getting even more byzantine every year, and with our recent win with Bruen, my most recent personal solution has been to apply for a CA CCW. While that process is dragging out for months, so far it is looking good.
                    13 yrs ago!
                    ^^^The above is just an opinion.

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                    "...which from their verbosity, their endless tautologies, their involutions of case within case, and parenthesis within parenthesis, and their multiplied efforts at certainty by saids and aforesaids, by ors and by ands, to make them more plain, do really render them more perplexed and incomprehensible, not only to common readers, but to lawyers themselves. " - Thomas Jefferson

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                    • Trapnellj
                      Junior Member
                      • Mar 2020
                      • 27

                      I spoke to the ranger at Stanislaus National Park today about this. There best advice; park, get gear, walk 200 steps and establish a shoot spot. Walk 270 degrees around your shoot spot making sure you "know what is behind your target and for others" and then enjoy the land of many uses. Hi-vis orange ONLY suggested during hunting season. And no one, no one has a sole right to any spot in the SNF. Apparently, last weekend a couple of camping hunters ran some others away from their "spot". It is "the land of many uses for all people"
                      Situational Awareness / Situational Advantage

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                      • TrailerparkTrash
                        Veteran Member
                        • Oct 2005
                        • 4249

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                        • Garand Hunter
                          Veteran Member
                          • Feb 2016
                          • 2764

                          I and my friends used to hunt National Forest and BLM in Calaveras County for years back in the '80s-'90s every deer season with no issues, maybe big changes have occurred since then ? Railroad Flats, Glencoe and Summit Level Rd. Took a few Bambi's outa Summit Level Rd & Glencoe with my Garand and Mini 30.

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                          Last edited by Garand Hunter; 10-26-2022, 3:40 PM. Reason: spelling

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                          • clb
                            Member
                            • Jan 2012
                            • 348

                            Originally posted by MudCamper
                            I started this thread, but have abandoned it the last several years. Thanks to all those who have stepped in to help others with questions.

                            With the laws getting even more byzantine every year, and with our recent win with Bruen, my most recent personal solution has been to apply for a CA CCW. While that process is dragging out for months, so far it is looking good.



                            Are you hitting the 90 day mark?
                            I am doing some reading on ccw law here.
                            Seems finding a definitive resource on ccw law is a tad tough row to hoe...
                            The lunatics ARE running the asylum.
                            Screw fotofukkit

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                            • MudCamper
                              Veteran Member
                              • Mar 2007
                              • 4595

                              Originally posted by clb
                              Are you hitting the 90 day mark?
                              I am doing some reading on ccw law here.
                              Seems finding a definitive resource on ccw law is a tad tough row to hoe...
                              It took me 8 months start to finish but I now have my concealed carry license, from the Sonoma County Sheriff's Office.

                              If you need help on how to apply, look for your county specific discussion thread here.

                              As for definitive info on laws we must follow as license holders, that bugged me also, so I did what I always do, created a complete document on the topic. Thread is here. Document is here: http://tinyurl.com/caccwlaws

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                              • bergmen
                                Senior Member
                                • May 2011
                                • 2488

                                Originally posted by Trapnellj
                                I spoke to the ranger at Stanislaus National Park today about this. There best advice; park, get gear, walk 200 steps and establish a shoot spot. Walk 270 degrees around your shoot spot making sure you "know what is behind your target and for others" and then enjoy the land of many uses. Hi-vis orange ONLY suggested during hunting season. And no one, no one has a sole right to any spot in the SNF. Apparently, last weekend a couple of camping hunters ran some others away from their "spot". It is "the land of many uses for all people"
                                You do mean "Stanislaus National Forest" don't you, not "Stanislaus National Park"?

                                Dan

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