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  • Tom-ADC
    Veteran Member
    • Apr 2010
    • 3614

    What I found

    Was moving stuff around trying tote things sorted out and came across these:
    Three Cattaraugus 225Q knives from WW 2 and a old Puma not sure of model does say Made in Germany.



    US Navy Retired, NRA Lifetime member. Member CRPA

  • #2
    Dano3467
    Calguns Addict
    • Mar 2013
    • 7381

    Nice,, that old Puma looks awesome !

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    • #3
      Tom-ADC
      Veteran Member
      • Apr 2010
      • 3614

      Originally posted by Dano3467
      Nice,, that old Puma looks awesome !
      From what I can find it's date code is 2nd quarter (April) 1966 sheath is ordinal but no box.
      US Navy Retired, NRA Lifetime member. Member CRPA

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      • #4
        sealocan
        Calguns Addict
        • Mar 2012
        • 9956

        Nice find!
        I'm a big fan of the Cattaraugus 225Q knives, sometimes called quartermaster's knives, although World War II Army records proved that so many were ordered that it obviously more than just army quartermasters who received them. If you held one you know how thick the blade is and it's my belief they were often used to open ammo crates and do other manual work other than just cutting things.

        The one I have is built like a Russian tank, it's thick and heavy and I don't see how you could ever break it even if you were using it as a pry bar opening wooden crates in a hurry. And the pommel is built with just as sturdy construction, so that it could be used as a hammer, maybe to hammer in tent pegs into the ground or whatever a soldier might need a hammer for.

        Yours have the correct left side mounted sheaths.
        For a military man who might have a 1911 or other pistol on his right side it would be better to have the knife on his belt's left side for a little bit of balance.

        Here is a great website for all combat knives and you could even look up the other one you found ( if you go to their main page) and they've listed the value of Cattaraugus knives /Quartermaster knives in good shape at around $100 and that was back when they last updated it in 2016....




        Also this is the main page if anyone find any type of military knife you can go to the reference section (on the top right-hand side of this page) and use the drop-down box once you know what country the knife in question is from and to any other members out there reading this even if the knife you have found looks homemade it still might have value because there were lots of men making their own knives, sometimes on the ships as they were going oversees the battle. Some examples are also on this website below.




        I'm not suggesting you ever sell them though because mine has become my favorite knife of my entire life. Not only do you have the history of its strong service through World War II and the probability that it served our country it's also a great survival knife that can take a beating again and again.
        Last edited by sealocan; 07-02-2020, 8:50 PM.

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        • #5
          Tom-ADC
          Veteran Member
          • Apr 2010
          • 3614

          I was thinking the Puma but now not so sure found a great Puma site but no luck identifying it anybody know model name?

          US Navy Retired, NRA Lifetime member. Member CRPA

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          • #6
            sealocan
            Calguns Addict
            • Mar 2012
            • 9956

            ^ The Puma one isn't a World War II military issue knife of course and I thought it might be a Puma knife "White Hunter" model with wood grips but the blade shape doesn't exactly match up...




            And neither does their Puma "Elk knife" (below) so maybe it was a model with a blade shape that was discontinued or your knife has been reshaped.



            Either way it looks like those vintage Puma Knives have high value...

            So whatever it is, Nice find!

            I'm sure some specialist in knives, here on Calguns, might be able to give you a better guess at what it is.
            Last edited by sealocan; 07-02-2020, 10:05 PM.

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            • #7
              Blademan21
              Senior Member
              • Jun 2007
              • 1941

              The picture of the Puma is a little fuzzy but it looks like a White Hunter. Might have to re-name it to Hunter

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              • #8
                Tom-ADC
                Veteran Member
                • Apr 2010
                • 3614

                Sent a picture to Classic Puma via MSG he thinks it was a White Hunter and somewhere along the line the tip portion was reground/reshaped.
                This knife and the other three were my fathers he'd be 102 now.
                I may sell the tree Cattaurgus 225Q's blades should polish up fine, leather washer handles maybe some better than others.
                US Navy Retired, NRA Lifetime member. Member CRPA

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                • #9
                  sealocan
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Mar 2012
                  • 9956

                  If I were you I would keep at least one of them but if you are passing them on I'm sure the buyer will appreciate the fact that they are getting a functional piece of U.S. military World War II history and an amazing heavy duty knife, that can still be used without fear of it breaking, at the same time.

                  Yes, they do polish up very nicely and there are some videos on YouTube about restoring that knife in particular. But I would just do the minimum to make it sharp and functioning yet leave the history of the "been there done that" war zone look wear-and-tear attached, if it was mine.

                  Their original handle is made in the old time way of leather discs stacked on top of each other, then the outside is polished and in a lot of original condition examples I've seen a few of the middle of leather discs/in the middle of the handle area are left in a rough textured, almost like a hard suede condition rather than the smooth leather of the rest of the hand. I think it's either to give it a better grip in your hand if the knife gets wet or bloody and it also lets you know you have the knife balanced in the middle of your hand just by feeling the rough area.

                  Also if the guard are pommel are slightly loose (which usually isn't the case for those knives because they were built so well but it's still a good trick to know if you don't want to take your entire knife apart) you can take a very strong piece of black thread try to wrap it is tightly around the area between the leather disc and the guard, or if the looseness is at the other end you wrap the thread between leather disks and the pommel in such a way that it tightens up that area and stops any wiggle/ movement of the knive's guard or pommel.
                  Just use enough thread to stop the movement and then tie a knot and cut the end while trying to tuck it into the gap so it is not seen.

                  Please forgive my ramblings here but I really appreciate what this knife has been through and how everyone could have a piece of functioning US World War II military history for not a lot of money.

                  So congratulations to you And to whoever manages to pick one up.
                  Last edited by sealocan; 07-03-2020, 11:44 AM.

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                  • #10
                    Alan Block
                    Veteran Member
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 3126

                    The Puma is a White Hunter also known as the Shikari.

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                    • #11
                      Tom-ADC
                      Veteran Member
                      • Apr 2010
                      • 3614

                      Originally posted by Alan Block
                      The Puma is a White Hunter also known as the Shikari.
                      Thank You!
                      US Navy Retired, NRA Lifetime member. Member CRPA

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                      • #12
                        Tom-ADC
                        Veteran Member
                        • Apr 2010
                        • 3614

                        Few more things from the tackle box

                        Last edited by Tom-ADC; 07-08-2020, 7:32 PM.
                        US Navy Retired, NRA Lifetime member. Member CRPA

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                        • #13
                          Tom-ADC
                          Veteran Member
                          • Apr 2010
                          • 3614

                          Originally posted by Tom-ADC
                          Few more things from the tackle box

                          Bottom row if my research is good:
                          Left to right:
                          WW1 English, next Boy Scouts messkits, WW2 German Army cutlery set, last with black handles also German. Most of the metal cup set are stamped Germany on the bottom. Have no use for any and will list them someplace for sale.
                          US Navy Retired, NRA Lifetime member. Member CRPA

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                          • #14
                            jigenax
                            Senior Member
                            • Jun 2010
                            • 1107

                            Wow, cool finds!
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