FS: Schmidt & Bender PMII 5-25x56mm P4F (fine) 1/4 Moa.

[82A1CAL]

I have another New In Box Schmidt & Bender PMII 5-25x56mm P4 Fine Reticles, 1/4 moa . Have 2 that you can choose from. One bought this year and the other last year. New and never mounted. $3000 FTF near Brea Orange County CA. Will consider high end .45 full size 1911's, NIB HK SP89, or Kreighoff Double rifles in 500 NE. Plus cash or willing to pay for the different in price. Will NOT consider any other scope in trade as this is the best!
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[82A1CAL]

yes, both moa. Exact same scope.

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[Aries64]

I have another New In Box Schmidt & Bender PMII 5-25x56mm P4 Fine Reticles, 1/4 moa . Have 2 that you can choose from. One bought this year and the other last year. New and never mounted. $3000 FTF near Brea Orange County CA. Will consider Non roaster high end 1911's, NIB HK SP89, SA M25, or Kreighoff Double rifles in 500 NE. Plus cash or willing to pay for the different in price. Will NOT consider any other scope in trade as this is the best!
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Something that is unclear about these two (2) scopes is whether they are MOA/MOA (MOA Reticle and .25 MOA Adjustments) or MIL/MOA (MIL Reticle and .25 MOA Adjustments). Most people don't know the difference, but its' only recently that S & B has offered a MOA-based version of the P4F (previously the P4F reticle was only available in a MIL-based version so nearly all PMIIs' with the P4F reticle are mismatched MIL Reticle/.25 MOA Adjustment scopes.

So, to make it perfectly clear to everyone, do the two scopes your're selling in this thread have MOA-based P4F Reticles and (matching) .25 MOA Turrets, or do they have MIL-based P4F Reticles and (non-matching) .25 MOA Turrets? I surmise its' the latter case.

On behalf of everyone, thanks in advance for your timely clarification.


Keith

[82A1CAL]

Didn't know they came missed matched. I thought when I said 1/4 moa, it would be clear it a moa scope.

This is the one I have:

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/160185/schmidt-and-bender-police-marksman-2-rifle-scope-34mm-tube-5-25x-56mm-side-focus-first-focal-illuminated-p-4-fine-mil-dot-reticle-matte

[82A1CAL]

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[Aries64]

Please show us the PMII box label (specs)

Didn't know they came missed matched. I thought when I said 1/4 moa, it would be clear it a moa scope.

This is the one I have:
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/160...-reticle-matte

Unfortunately, only the adjustment increment is listed by Midway - the reticle is not specified as MIL or MOA-based. The P4 and P4F reticles were introduced as MIL-based, and S & B only introduced the MOA-based version of the P4F reticle in 2011. Since you say that you bought one in 2009 and the other in 2010, I surmise that your scopes are probably mis-matched with the MIL-based P4F reticle and .25 MOA adjustments.

Also, while it isn't concrete evidence of which version (MIL or MOA-based) is in the two scopes that you're selling, the reticle diagram shown at the Midway link you provided is of the MIL-based version of the P4L Fine.

If you post a photo of the label on the box we'll all be able to see the factory configuration, including the Reticle. A P4F MOA Reticle will be denoted as "P4LF MOA". If showing the serial number bothers you, you can edit the photo so the serial number doesn't show, or is partially obscured. The uncertainty of mis-matched turrets and the reticle is certain to discourage potential buyers. Remember that your scopes' are high dollar items, so potential Buyers' understandably want to be sure what they're buying before committing to a purchase.

The photo below shows the label of a PMII 5-25X[56mm] with CCW (Counter Clockwise turret rotation), 0.1 MIL/CM adjustments, and the Premier Reticles' Gen 2 XR reticle:

PMII 5-25X 56mm 0.1 MIL/CM Gen 2 XR CCW box label:



Keith

[82A1CAL]

It is the mil based P4 fine with 1/4 MOA knobs.

[Aries64]

It is the mil based P4 fine with 1/4 MOA knobs.

I've been off the furums for several month now - on behalf of everyone thanks for the clarification.


Keith