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  • obiwan
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2012
    • 657

    AR Pistol kit

    Decent pistol kit without a lower but they add in a 15% coupon to use next purchase.

  • #2
    bksa
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2011
    • 2012

    vfg?

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    • #3
      naimad
      Veteran Member
      • Mar 2006
      • 4477

      Originally posted by bksa
      vfg?
      Franklin Armory is a California & Nevada quality based AR-15 manufacturer. We offer quality, reliable firearms for civilians, law enforcement, & military agencies

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      • #4
        BucDan
        Veteran Member
        • Dec 2011
        • 4060

        Wow, I always thought pistol builds can't have a vfg. What makes this one so different?

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        • #5
          Free_Citizen_Shop
          Junior Member
          • May 2015
          • 99

          Originally posted by BucDan
          Wow, I always thought pistol builds can't have a vfg. What makes this one so different?
          I think it may be because its in Nevada
          https://freecitizenshop.com/product-...s-nonfirearms/

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          • #6
            deckhandmike
            Calguns Addict
            • Jan 2011
            • 8322

            Originally posted by BucDan
            Wow, I always thought pistol builds can't have a vfg. What makes this one so different?
            I think it's an overall length thing. If it's over something like 26" it's no longer classified as a pistol. If you go to franklins arms website it explains it.

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            • #7
              Cheung415
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2012
              • 2072

              Everyone should read the last paragraph in the link above atleast once.

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              • #8
                Ashick
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2014
                • 650

                I have a one time code for 10% if anybody wants it. First to quote this post, I will send it to you via PM.

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                • #9
                  Cheung415
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2012
                  • 2072

                  Originally posted by Ashick
                  I have a one time code for 10% if anybody wants it. First to quote this post, I will send it to you via PM.
                  Ill take it ashick. Thanks

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                  • #10
                    Ashick
                    Senior Member
                    • Feb 2014
                    • 650

                    Originally posted by Cheung415
                    Ill take it ashick. Thanks
                    Sent

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                    • #11
                      Free_Citizen_Shop
                      Junior Member
                      • May 2015
                      • 99

                      Originally posted by Cheung415
                      Everyone should read the last paragraph in the link above atleast once.
                      So how would this be transferred in CA?
                      https://freecitizenshop.com/product-...s-nonfirearms/

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                      • #12
                        Major Danger
                        Member
                        • Aug 2010
                        • 110

                        The ATF letter says because the overall length is over 26", it's not classified as a pistol, handgun, or AOW. Does this mean you don't need to build it on a pistol lower? Is there a ca law I'm not thinking of?

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                        • #13
                          Octaviob
                          Member
                          • Dec 2014
                          • 163

                          From my understanding you have to build this pistol kit on a lower that has already been registered or will be registered as a pistol. If you build it on a lower that has been registered as a rifle you are in violation of federal law for building a short barrel rifle with the pistol kit. You can be in violation of both state and federal law for just being in possession of the kit or any parts that allow you to build something illegal.

                          The time to register a lower receiver as a pistol expired last year with the end of SSE in Kali. Unless lower receivers are added to the Kali roster of approved handguns you will not be able to register it as a pistol lower. I doubt if that will be happening anytime soon.

                          There is an exception to all this, that is going down the 80% lower route. That lower you would not have to register however you would have to prove that you built it to be a pistol not a rifle. I have heard that people are documenting their build process to prove that they built it themselves and that they made a pistol out of it not a rifle. Kali and federal laws still apply such as using a tube or Sig arm brace instead of a butt stock and limiting the capacity to 10 rounds for magazines.

                          If you were to build a pistol legally with a 80% lower keep in mind that you also run the risk of being arrested by a LEO who does not know the finer points of the law. There is no downside for a LEO to arrest you and have the courts sort everything out later. The financial liability of lost work, bail, getting your firearm back, attending court dates, etc. are all on you. I would suggest you do some more research before purchasing this kit. A good place to start is on this website. There are a lot of folks with good advice. I am only speaking in generalities and do not claim to know the law in the detail you need. This is only free advice and worth every penny.
                          And so it goes...

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                          • #14
                            Major Danger
                            Member
                            • Aug 2010
                            • 110

                            I understand about the ar pistol build, but I don't think this would be a pistol build. Just like you can register a "virgin" lower as a pistol or rifle (not in CA), couldn't you buy a stripped lower and build it as this "firearm" because it's not a pistol or rifle? A stripped lower is already listed as "other firearm" on the 4473 anyway.

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                            • #15
                              Octaviob
                              Member
                              • Dec 2014
                              • 163

                              I think you should post this question in the semi-automatic gas operated forum. It is not going to get the exposure you need to get the answer you are looking for. If the question has already been answered, someone will show you the link to it. Good luck.

                              This forum is really for finding sales and coupons.
                              And so it goes...

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