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  • whoop223
    Junior Member
    • May 2007
    • 1

    bulk factory new 223 for sale

    We are almost ready to start production on FACTORY NEW .223 and .308 fmj . Our new company will be called " Crooked River Ammo" We will be loading with factory new federal brass with our headstamp and factory new federal or speer 55 gr or 62 gr fmj. Our 308 will be loaded with factory new Lake City brass with sealed primers and probably 147 gr or 150 gr federal or speer bullets. Our open prices for .223 will be around $375 per 1000 rnds for the first 100,000 rounds as an introductory price for our grand opening. The price will go to current market value after that. We have not determined the price yet on the 308 but we do know that we will have about 100,000 rnds available for purchase in a couple months. We operate on a first come first serve basis and we are taking orders as of today. We will be more than happy to send yoiu some test samples if you are interested in bulk purchases. Contact Robert Rhoades via email whoop223@hotmail.com Law Enforcement / Bulk order discounts
  • #2
    bwiese
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Oct 2005
    • 27621

    Congrats and best of luck...

    A few questions:

    (1.) Will these rounds be loaded to NATO 5.56 pressures/velocities, or just those for SAAMI 223?

    (2.) As for the 62gr bullet composition: is it M855 w/steel penetrator, or just a conventional FMJ bullet architecture? (Actually, I'd be hoping for the latter, for better accuracy.)

    I am not trying to "dis" you but I will say $375 for 1K rounds is a bit more than a high price, at least for 55gr FMJ ammo. 1K rounds of Fed AE and Win white box can be had for $285-$295 area...

    Bill Wiese
    San Jose, CA

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    • #3
      donger
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2005
      • 1560

      Is this the right forum?

      Regardless, I just received 1000 rounds of factory 5.56 for $320 shipped.
      Certified Ragaholic

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      • #4
        bridgeport
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2006
        • 782

        Whoa gentlemen, lets give this fellow a chance... any new source of ammo is a good thing and pricing will obviously find its own level in time. Business is business.

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        • #5
          luvtolean
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2006
          • 2063

          Originally posted by bridgeport
          Whoa gentlemen, lets give this fellow a chance... any new source of ammo is a good thing and pricing will obviously find its own level in time. Business is business.
          You've got that right. If he's going to survive he ought to understand the market; and what I say below is just business too, think of it as free market research.

          $375 is just too high from a new, totally unknown ammo company.

          You can get Black Hills Red Box for that.

          To say nothing of other proven vendors such as PMC, FED, REM and WIN that are about $300/1k.

          Nonetheless, welcome to the market, we can always use more ammo vendors! Good luck with your venture.
          Last edited by luvtolean; 05-31-2007, 3:47 PM.

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          • #6
            bridgeport
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2006
            • 782

            Actually when I first saw this post I thought it was somebodys idea of a joke.
            "Crooked river ammo" and taking pre-orders.... Oh well, at least he's offering samples... trouble is to be certain, you need a sample of a batch run off of the machinery etc.that will be used in production otherwise youre just getting load runs from an unknown source. Verification and authenticity will of course be the order of the day here. No disrespect meant but as the man said... trust but verify.I wouldnt want to get caught up in a Nigerian ammo scheme. Ouch.. I thought I was the one who said lets give this guy a chance... OK, lets see some product.
            Last edited by bridgeport; 05-31-2007, 5:50 PM.

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            • #7
              PistolPete75
              Calguns Addict
              • Jan 2007
              • 5230

              free samples, please.

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              • #8
                GlockComa
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2006
                • 591

                I'd like free samples.

                Good luck with the new venture!
                Originally posted by 5150Marcelo
                CalGuns bacon hunt???... Im in like Ron Jeremy in the back door of an 18 year old female virgin in heat! Lets do this!

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                • #9
                  Shane916
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Feb 2006
                  • 5004

                  Any website or other contact info other than a Hotmail account?

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                  • #10
                    gose
                    Veteran Member
                    • Oct 2005
                    • 3951

                    I would very much like to support a company making ammo in California (if that's the case), but the product has to be fairly competitive in price and performance. If you're basically offering Am Eagle (fed bullets, fed brass) but it's ~25% more expensive, I'd find the purchase pretty hard to justify.
                    With Oden on our side.

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                    • #11
                      Hoop
                      Ready fo HILLARY!!
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 11534

                      Originally posted by Shane916
                      Any website or other contact info other than a Hotmail account?
                      Um, maybe a Nigerian Payphone?

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                      • #12
                        Shane916
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Feb 2006
                        • 5004

                        Originally posted by Hoop
                        Um, maybe a Nigerian Payphone?
                        hahaha.. sad I was thinking along the same lines as you but im gonna keep quiet for the time being

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                        • #13
                          USMCM16A2
                          Banned
                          • Jul 2006
                          • 4941

                          Crooked River Ammo.

                          Gents,


                          The best source for your .223 and .308 needs is Ammo Brothers, Darren and Dustin are licenced ammo manufacturers. They are now producing the forementioned calibers for significantly less than this operation is posting. I pay $275-280 for 1k of the 62gr SS109. Their number is 562-865-3980. Thanks, USMCM16A2.

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                          • #14
                            Hoop
                            Ready fo HILLARY!!
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 11534

                            Don't forget Miwall!

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                            • #15
                              tankerman
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Mar 2006
                              • 24240

                              Originally posted by USMCM16A2
                              Gents,


                              The best source for your .223 and .308 needs is Ammo Brothers, Darren and Dustin are licenced ammo manufacturers. They are now producing the forementioned calibers for significantly less than this operation is posting. I pay $275-280 for 1k of the 62gr SS109. Their number is 562-865-3980. Thanks, USMCM16A2.
                              The Best? I don't think so.. I purchased a can of their 223 ammo and the primers weren't even the same through out the entire can. Velocity spreads over my chrono were huge. Please 'splain how they are best? Please stick to the facts.
                              They are producing SS109? This thread is about in house manufactured ammo. Lets talk about their AMMO. I was at the range with my uncle and he was shooting some of their 40 S+W reloads in his H+K, luckily I noticed that his gun sounded strange after a shot. We took a look and the bullet had not exited the barrel. No powder charge.
                              Last edited by tankerman; 06-01-2007, 7:43 AM.

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