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  • pennys dad
    Arizona Ex-Pat
    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Feb 2008
    • 5984

    Variable or Fixed?

    Just checking in.
    I generally set a scope to one power (the highest) and never change it, no matter the distance, which for me will be 25 yards to 500 yards. With a 556 or 30 Cal.
    What i want to know is, do you have a reason not to use fixed.
    I shoot 25 to 500 yards at Burro, Kingman, Piru and Whittington.
    I teach intermediate rifle marksmanship at those same distances.

    What are your thoughts?
    Pennys Dad

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    highpower790
    Veteran Member
    • Jun 2013
    • 3481

    More magnification equals more visible movement.I keep mine At 12x
    Keep it simple!

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    • #3
      Oneblood
      Banned
      • Dec 2014
      • 43

      If you shoot 500 yards at 1x, you don't need any advice here

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      • #4
        highpower790
        Veteran Member
        • Jun 2013
        • 3481

        Originally posted by Oneblood
        If you shoot 500 yards at 1x, you don't need any advice here
        I shoot with a diopter in my service rifle that is 1/2 and I really need to step up to a 1x to see clearly.
        Keep it simple!

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        • #5
          JMP
          Internet Warrior
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          • Feb 2012
          • 17056

          Originally posted by pennys dad
          What i want to know is, do you have a reason not to use fixed.
          Yes. For large rifles and fast projectiles, you'll have no prayer of spotting your own hit at maximum or fixed magnification if it isn't that far. Less magnification gives you a greater field of view to observe the ambient conditions immediately prior to your shot. You'll want greater magnification to shoot on paper to ensure your point of aim is not changing and the greater magnification helps at longer ranges. You will also want the ability to reduce your magnification when you are shooting at longe ranges if the mirage begins to get too thick. You will also need to back down on your magnification if you are shooting in low light conditions since your exit pupil is likely to be too small or you will need to shoot with an intensifier.

          Zoom & FFP for me all the way.

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          • #6
            kcstott
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Nov 2011
            • 11796

            Originally posted by JMP
            Yes. For large rifles and fast projectiles, you'll have no prayer of spotting your own hit at maximum or fixed magnification if it isn't that far. Less magnification gives you a greater field of view to observe the ambient conditions immediately prior to your shot. You'll want greater magnification to shoot on paper to ensure your point of aim is not changing and the greater magnification helps at longer ranges. You will also want the ability to reduce your magnification when you are shooting at longe ranges if the mirage begins to get too thick. You will also need to back down on your magnification if you are shooting in low light conditions since your exit pupil is likely to be too small or you will need to shoot with an intensifier.

            Zoom & FFP for me all the way.
            Those where the reason I was going to state. and same here Zoom FFP for me as well. Makes life easy when ranging

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            • #7
              FMJBT
              Veteran Member
              • Mar 2007
              • 4888

              Another nod towards zoom and FFP, although I would also add parallax adjustment to that list as well.
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              • #8
                ElvenSoul
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                • Apr 2008
                • 17431

                Originally posted by FMJBT
                Another nod towards zoom and FFP, although I would also add parallax adjustment to that list as well.
                Do Scope Companies not get that AR Shooters need a 2-10 Mil/Mil 30MM scope with FFP and Parallax Adjustment? Such a scope would be awesome for a LR308
                Of course I would settle 3-9 or 1-8
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                • #9
                  CSACANNONEER
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                  • Dec 2006
                  • 44093

                  After 400-500 is when I can have issues on max magnification depending on conditions. I do like to see some mirage but, at times it is impossible to see anything through my scope on 32x and I've had to crank it all the way down to 8x or 10x just to see my target clear enough to guess where the center is.
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                  • #10
                    NorCalFocus
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                    • Aug 2013
                    • 3913

                    Originally posted by ElvenSoul
                    Do Scope Companies not get that AR Shooters need a 2-10 Mil/Mil 30MM scope with FFP and Parallax Adjustment? Such a scope would be awesome for a LR308
                    Of course I would settle 3-9 or 1-8


                    Now break out the credit card

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                    • #11
                      ElvenSoul
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Apr 2008
                      • 17431

                      Ok back to the OP's Original Topic

                      The S&B 1-4 remains popular due to it's wide field of view and clarity. It allows shooters to see more of what is around a target.

                      Part of Nikon's sucess with their 3-9 scopes is that they have bigger objectives than their competition. 42mm instead of just 40mm. This allows the huner to see a bigger fov. It also allows the scope to bring in more light.
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                      • #12
                        ElvenSoul
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Apr 2008
                        • 17431

                        Originally posted by NorCalFocus
                        At $900 that is a lot better price than the $2400 for the Valdada 1-10x!
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                        • #13
                          kcstott
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Nov 2011
                          • 11796

                          Originally posted by ElvenSoul
                          Do Scope Companies not get that AR Shooters need a 2-10 Mil/Mil 30MM scope with FFP and Parallax Adjustment? Such a scope would be awesome for a LR308
                          Of course I would settle 3-9 or 1-8
                          For what??? the Zombies???

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                          • #14
                            ElvenSoul
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Apr 2008
                            • 17431

                            Originally posted by kcstott
                            For what??? the Zombies???
                            Yotes, Piggys, Ground Hogs, Deer mostly

                            Just have a 2-7x with a German #4 ret on my 20" 6.5C. It is okay but I dream of better!
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                            • #15
                              FMJBT
                              Veteran Member
                              • Mar 2007
                              • 4888

                              Originally posted by ElvenSoul
                              Do Scope Companies not get that AR Shooters need a 2-10 Mil/Mil 30MM scope with FFP and Parallax Adjustment? Such a scope would be awesome for a LR308
                              Of course I would settle 3-9 or 1-8
                              Vortex PST 2.5-10X32 FFP as mentioned above, or if you want the 34mm flavor which has a slightly lower street price, the Burris XTR II 2-10X42 would fit the bill. I agree though, other than these two and a few other examples, the market is pretty much wide open for someone to make a mid power variable FFP.
                              U.S. Navy (Retired) 1994-2015

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