ELR CENTRAL WORLD RECORD EVENT

[URSA Facilitator]

See attached PDF.

[Hognuts]

Looking forward to this one in our own back yard!

[Hoffer]

The rules do not allow me to run my rear setup.
Advancing the sport by keeping the rules from the 1960's

[Hognuts]

Throw a rear bag under that som***** and come shoot with us! 😜

[LynnJr]

Hoffer
Put a half round piece of barstock on it like a keel on a boat and whoop there rules from the 60's. Add some cant so you get elevation and fill the bag with half heavy sand and half lead shot so it doesn't walk on you.
Beat them at there own game!

[focus]

The "original" ELRC rules favored F-class rigs. The "original" rules seemed to prohibit rear adjustment mechanisms. But, If the buttstock only touches a bag; an argument could be made that rear windage/elevation screws have the same effect as bag squeezing.

It seems that revision 10 posted above; relaxed the restrictions. Only, heavy rail and bolted down rigs are prohibited. The rear bag requirement was changed to "may use".

Don't overlook the new 100y zero carve out! That eliminates the cold bore & shooter requirement.

Cheers,

[Hoffer]

The 100 yard zero could be made directly before the record shots according to the rules. Another dumb rule. The army snipers don't take a warmup shot before they send one downrange.
I liked this sport because you could do whatever you wanted.
I can't have a rear adjustment system that cost $400 that is deemed illegal, but the AB guys can use $120,000 in electronics and thats OK.
Only progressing the sport for them ... not really interested in new ideas which would make them look bad

My 2 375 Cheytacs and a bunch of other stuff for sale here

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=1388939

[Hognuts]

Damn, you aren't messing around!

[sigstroker]

Here you go. Gun only touches bag.

https://4aw-store.myshopify.com/collections/bases/products/4aw-v3-adjustable-bag-base

[LynnJr]

SigStroker
I think Hoffer actually has that exact setup and it isn't allowed?
His guns have a mono-pod that ride in a channel/groove and he can control his windage/elevation from the back of the gun without having to reach out further forward like a conventional front rest.
He is a metals guy and has some unique ideas we are sworn to secrecy about but the AB rules don't seem to allow much imagination for tinkerers.
Don't get me wrong those guys can shoot but they are trending in one direction.
I also trend in one direction a shooting bench but I have a plate a cage and four screws in my neck holding me together and prone shooting is painful.
Our organisation allows everything as long as it is legal to own and shoot.

[Hoffer]

I think the trend is having stuff so expensive that Only AB can win.
Helps when you make your own rules

All these cold bore shots everyone is bragging about are not cold bore, but just moving your rifle to a different distance after shooting it multiple times before that. The truth is coming out.

[LynnJr]

Hoffer
Some of us new the truth long ago but when we post it some shooters take it wrong and get there panties in a wad.
When your on the line at a big match you usually get the skinny on who is real and who the phonies are.

[Hoffer]

A "World"or International record can not be set with a few guys in the US setting the rules. That is what you call a National record at best.
I would call it a National record if the NRA was involved and the meets were officially recorded.
One of the problems is if someone got a record earlier this year using the old rules the new rules would make it void. Then next year when they tweak the rules again same thing happens.

You need rules that will last for at least 20 years.
They have been working on it for almost 2 years and still pretty dramatic changes. The apparent lack of vision in the rules will not stand the test of time and create true progression of the sport.

[URSA Facilitator]

Hoffer:

When tech is changing daily (hourly?), a rule that is expected to last for 20 years is a non-starter. This particular event is clearly identified as being for an ELRC record. No one (at their end) is trying to say it is a world record. Taking what they are trying to do out of context is not helpful.

[Hoffer]

From LRO

ELR CEntral World Record Event

LRO would like to announce that there will be a World Record Even held Sunday Jan 21st before the 2018 SHOT Show in Las Vegas NV.

From ELR Central

The following is a list of scheduled events in which ELR world records will be attempted according to the ELR Central criteria.

ELR Central World Record Event
Date: January 21 2017

Location: Front Sight Range, Pahrump, NV

ELR Central flyer

INAUGURAL WORLD RECORD EVENTWorld Record will be 3 out of 3 direct impacts on a 36-inch square plate with no
practice shots or sighters.
23. Every attempt will be made to video all shooters for World Records. World Records
must be witnessed and verified by 5 witnesses including the Match Director.
24. Any existing record must be broken by at least 10 yards.
25. If a shooter has a spotter, they will both be named as the
26. If a shooter shoots without a spotter, he or she will be named as the
27. If more than one shooter scores 3 for 3 at a given distance, those shooters will hold the
World Record until another shooter goes 3 for 3 at a longer distance.
28. After a World Record setting performance