MRAD or MOA

[Ferrum]

On your long range rifles, do you use MRAD or MOA? Why?

[JMP]

I do not think the unit really matters. If you are shooting far enough at small targets, you'll most likely need to hold an amount between subtensions. It'd suggest milliradian as you'll get a much wider selection of scopes. For my long range scopes, I use milliradian as what I favor is not offered in MOA.

[bsumoba]

Tactical - MIL
Steel Shoots - MIL
Benchrest - MOA
F-Class (F-Open / F T/R) - MOA
Target shooting (paper) in general - MOA

[CSACANNONEER]

Tactical - MIL
Steel Shoots - MIL
Benchrest - MOA
F-Class (F-Open / F T/R) - MOA
Target shooting (paper) in general - MOA

Great simple breakdown.

[FLDWRX]

[ElvenSoul]

MRAD is nice in the wind

[Ferrum]

I use MOA across the board. It's just easier in my simple mind to stay with one unit of measurement, instead of breaking it apart between disciplines.

I was reading a distance shooting blog and the subject came up. People were all over the board with opinions and I was curious to hear what everyone else was using.

[bsumoba]

I use both, but a lot of it is that I have to speak the lingo with other shooters in the discipline I am shooting. Tactical guys almost all have MILS so when they are talking about their drop and wind holds, they are talking in MILS. When I shoot F-Open, they are always talking MOA. when in Rome, do as the Romans do I guess.

Mils is easier to do calculations.
MOA is a more precise measuring unit being that 0.1 MIL equals about 0.36" and 1/4 MOA Is about 0.26".
Doing a lot of turret adjustments on the fly say In a steel match is easier and faster to do in MILS.

[ExtremeX]

I do not think the unit really matters. If you are shooting far enough at small targets, you'll most likely need to hold an amount between subtensions. It'd suggest milliradian as you'll get a much wider selection of scopes. For my long range scopes, I use milliradian as what I favor is not offered in MOA.

This...

When I started shooting and had almost all MOA based scopes until I came across some options which were only available in MRAD.

After using both for years, it doesn't matter at all.

That said, for the sake of standardization, I've started to favor the MRAD based system primarily due to availability of optics, and when having to make decisions on support gear like a spotting scope with a reticle.

I still shoot with both MOA and MRAD based optics but new purchases are almost always MRAD even if I have an option.

[JMP]

It's not a life decision. Actually, if you want to use the very nicest scopes for ELR, you will need to learn to use European turrets. It's quite a bit more difficult to transition between Euro-turrets and American-turrets. If I could do it all over again, I'd learn on CW turrets and milliradian and stick with that. My first real scope was in MOA with CCW turrets.

[ratled]

No matter what you decide works for you be sure to get either mil/mil or mrad/mrad so you don't have to have MOA clicks and mil ticks.

For me I went mil as I found it easier for me to do mil ranging. Yes you can do "mil ranging" in MOA too

ratled

[2shotjoe]

My Vortex Viper PST is mrad, you can give my gun a try.

[vliberatore]

I'm a MOA fan myself. Part of my reasoning was that 1/4 MOA is a finer measurement than 1/10 MIL. That said, if you have a reticle that matches your turrets and know how to use your scope you should be just fine.

[Fjold]

I think in MOA but have a couple of Mrad scopes. It screws me up when I use them.

[kcstott]

I think in MOA but have a couple of Mrad scopes. It screws me up when I use them.

Same here. I'm alway converting between the two.

I was born and raised on MOA, Mrad is good I don't see them as better unless you are ranging with them. then the Mrad is better.