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  • Citadelgrad87
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Mar 2007
    • 16899

    1911 gurus, will this .22 conversion safely fire?

    I put this up last night in handguns, but there's more potential knowledgeable traffic here.

    I have a factory colt commanding officers model 1911, my dad got it for me when I graduated from some college.



    It's an officer slide on an 8 shot (so non officers model) frame. Full sized grip, unknown dust cover length, officers slide.

    I saw PSA had gsg conversions on sale in October, so I poked around. This kit fits government and commander models, at least the ad says it does, but it says it will not fit the officers model. Now, the officers model is a chopped grip model, so the standard mags that come with the conversion won't fit flush in a chopped frame, but I am not worried about that, because my frame is not chopped in the grip area. I wasn't sure if that's what they mean by it "doesn't fit."

    I did some net digging, and I thought I established that my pistol had a commander sized frame, which means gsg says the conversion will fit.

    So I ordered it. Naturally, Here's what it looks like.



    Yes, that's a gap.



    It fits on the rails snugly, there's very little play, no rattle. It cycles by hand like butter, without any apparent binding. It will strip a snap cap out of the magazine, chamber it, and eject it. I can't detect any binding anywhere. I'm worried about the dust cover to lower front slide clearance.

    Mechanically, the conversion has a full length guide Rod and captive spring, so I am not sure the dust rail serves a purpose other than dust exclusion.

    I know it's fugly, but will this work? Or did I come up with a way to KB a 1911?

    I've been pointed to a kimber conversion for compact 1911s, but that gets me the other way, the slide will fit, but the magazines are too short.

    So, question one, can I shoot it this way.

    Question two, since this is gun smithing, anyone think of a clever way to eliminate that gap? I think the slide is zinc or aluminum, so that complicates just welding a spacer on and grinding it to fit. The finish on these slides is supposed to be very fragile, so I don't mind having to refinish it if I can get something less fugly.

    Thanks.
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    SandDiegoDuner
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2009
    • 523

    Didn't get the answer you liked in the pistol forum? I would say check for contact when cycling the slide fully.

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    • #3
      Citadelgrad87
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Mar 2007
      • 16899

      Originally posted by SandDiegoDuner
      Didn't get the answer you liked in the pistol forum? I would say check for contact when cycling the slide fully.
      I got advice both ways with little solid information to support either position.

      One person said he wouldn't shoot it, one said it would be fine.

      Hardly a landslide either way.

      It does not appear to bind at any point. I can't see or feel any contact at any point.
      Originally posted by tony270
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      Originally posted by repubconserv
      Print it out and frame it for all I care
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      Originally posted by pjsig
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      • #4
        kcstott
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Nov 2011
        • 11796

        That little bit of gap will not cause any issues other then the chance of dirt getting in there.

        That said I do know that on some short slide colts and Springfield's the slide is machined a wee bit different to handle the main spring.

        I can't see this being an issue on a .22 lr conversion.

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        • #5
          flyer898
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2009
          • 2017

          If I understand OP correctly the manufacturer sells the same part number for Commander and full-size frames. I suspect it will be fine, but I would take the precaution of telephoning the manufacturer and asking them about the gap.
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          • #6
            cannon
            In Memoriam
            • Aug 2008
            • 8589

            Is it possible for you to cause contact while manipulating it by hand?
            ^^ Said by some lunatic on the internet

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            • #7
              e-clip
              Junior Member
              • Jun 2013
              • 79

              Looks like you have plenty of clearance by the dust cover,

              I bought two conversion kits from PSA and got extra mags from CDNN Sports out of Texas $19.99 each.

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              • #8
                Matt P
                Veteran Member
                • Jun 2006
                • 3101

                If you can hand cycle it and it runs fine, then I see no issue with shooting. I have had out of battery detonations with 22 LR before with no issue.
                I would be more concerned with safety when dealing with a centerfire.
                I own quite a few 1911s and spent a month in NC building them. Only offering that to establish where my opinion is coming from.
                I personally would go out and shoot it.
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                • #9
                  Twystd1
                  Superfluous
                  CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                  • Oct 2009
                  • 2692

                  I would shoot it.

                  I have 2 factory Colt 22 1911s. They are great plinkers.

                  The trick is getting the mags to work properly.

                  -T

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