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  • Libtard
    Member
    • Jul 2014
    • 437

    Glock "Twenty-Five Cent Trigger" Job

    I've seen several videos on YouTube which explain that disassembling a Glock and polishing all of the metal-to-metal contact surfaces, the trigger mechanism can be smoother. And this can in turn make the release smoother and the gun becomes more accurate.

    So I tried this, and the release is smoother, although it could be better. It was interesting to learn how the trigger and release mechanisms work.

    I would like to ask the experts a few questions about this:
    1) Does polishing these surfaces really improve the performance of the Glock? (I suppose this applies to a lot of other guns as well).
    2) If I use a Dremel, gently, on its lowest speed, will I damage anything? It doesn't seem that it any damage will occur, although I can tell that there are a few surfaces which you don't want to round.
    3) Any other recommendations for polishing compounds and ideal lubricants for the metal-to-metal surfaces? (I use Hoppes 9 oil).

    Thanks!
  • #2
    Mentiroso
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2014
    • 960

    Polishing the metal parts will improve the friction between the parts. I use a dremel almost exclusively. I like flitz metal polish, but I have used Ryobi brand polishing compounds.
    Antonio Villaraigosa
    Unemployed Politician

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    • #3
      kcstott
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Nov 2011
      • 11796

      Originally posted by Mentiroso
      Polishing the metal parts will improve the friction between the parts. I use a dremel almost exclusively. I like flitz metal polish, but I have used Ryobi brand polishing compounds.
      And you need to tell them to use a polishing wheel too. Because somebody will put a grinding stone in there and use flitz and go to town and screw **** up.

      The mere act of asking this question shows the lack of experience with firearms


      Libtard

      What you are trying to accomplish is polishing the parts without removing material.
      I would not use a dremal unless you know what the hell you are doing with it. it is far to easy to screw things up.

      Polish it by hand. A little gentle work with some scotch brite then with a soft cloth and flitz or semicrome will do the trick.

      Polishing the trigger sear surfaces on any firearm reduces the gritty feel and can in some instances reduce the pull weight required to pull the trigger.

      Improve the performance of the Glock?? NO. But it will improve your performance with the pistol. Trigger work will not make the gun more accurate. It will make you more accurate with the gun. you will not be jerking the trigger pulling your rounds off center.
      The gun is as accurate as it is ever going to be without fine tuning of the action. The trigger improve your accuracy.

      That said you can also make your firearm dangerous. so you need to fully understand what is going on and what is going to happen when you work on a surface of your trigger.

      As for lubricants. NONE know read that again NONE. The only parts of a trigger that get lubed are the pivot pins THAT'S IT. Oil attracts dust, dirt and grime and it will screw things up. Not one of my firearms has a single drop of oil on the sear surfaces. Well maybe my AK's cause I slather them in grease and that crap gets everywhere. but never on purpose

      If you are worried about corrosion One drop rubbed around then wiped off. that's it.


      Now what polishing will not do.

      It will not fix bad parts, bad engagement surfaces and just over all out of spec or not tight enough tolerance parts.

      That requires component replacement and hand fitting.

      Now I'm going to tell you something you will not want to hear.

      If you wanted a Glock with a decent trigger pull you should not have bought a Glock or at least you should have bought a Glock then shipped it of to a pistol smith and had a proper trigger job done.

      I like the Glock pistol But I also at the same time hate it too.

      For one it's has now become trendy and I can't stand someone that buys stuff just because someone else did. Nor can i stand to buy the product as good as it might be out of fear that someone will think that I'm just a sheep following the trends

      Second is the horrid trigger it has. Feels like they made the trigger parts out of rubber. Nope Don't like it.

      After decades of shooting Timney's, Jewel's, Bold's, Canjar's and finely adjusted pre64 Winchester triggers it's hard to accept a crapy trigger pull

      H&K, Springfield XD, Colt, and S&W all have better triggers out of the box then a Glock. But the Glock was designed for combat where trigger feel is not needed but a safe weapon is, so I can respect the design.

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      • #4
        Libtard
        Member
        • Jul 2014
        • 437

        Originally posted by kcstott
        And you need to tell them to use a polishing wheel too. Because somebody will put a grinding stone in there and use flitz and go to town and screw **** up.



        The mere act of asking this question shows the lack of experience with firearms





        Libtard



        What you are trying to accomplish is polishing the parts without removing material.

        I would not use a dremal unless you know what the hell you are doing with it. it is far to easy to screw things up.



        Polish it by hand. A little gentle work with some scotch brite then with a soft cloth and flitz or semicrome will do the trick.



        Polishing the trigger sear surfaces on any firearm reduces the gritty feel and can in some instances reduce the pull weight required to pull the trigger.



        Improve the performance of the Glock?? NO. But it will improve your performance with the pistol. Trigger work will not make the gun more accurate. It will make you more accurate with the gun. you will not be jerking the trigger pulling your rounds off center.

        The gun is as accurate as it is ever going to be without fine tuning of the action. The trigger improve your accuracy.



        That said you can also make your firearm dangerous. so you need to fully understand what is going on and what is going to happen when you work on a surface of your trigger.



        As for lubricants. NONE know read that again NONE. The only parts of a trigger that get lubed are the pivot pins THAT'S IT. Oil attracts dust, dirt and grime and it will screw things up. Not one of my firearms has a single drop of oil on the sear surfaces. Well maybe my AK's cause I slather them in grease and that crap gets everywhere. but never on purpose



        If you are worried about corrosion One drop rubbed around then wiped off. that's it.





        Now what polishing will not do.



        It will not fix bad parts, bad engagement surfaces and just over all out of spec or not tight enough tolerance parts.



        That requires component replacement and hand fitting.



        Now I'm going to tell you something you will not want to hear.



        If you wanted a Glock with a decent trigger pull you should not have bought a Glock



        I like the Glock pistol But I also at the same time hate it too.



        For one it's has now become trendy and I can't stand someone that buys stuff just because someone else did.



        Second is the horrid trigger it has. Feels like they made the trigger parts out of rubber. Nope Don't like it.
        Thank you for taking so much time to answer my questions.

        I think that Glock has so much going for them in their reputation these days, that it's not surprising that so many first-time buyers choose one. I can't speak to all the experience you have; I mean, that's why I ask questions, right? I haven't shot lots of different guns. But I'm not as accurate with the Glock as I'd like, and the trigger really does have a gritty feel to it. Now that I've disassembled and studied it, I can see why. I haven't studied other trigger assemblies, but I think Glock's is pretty cheap and very sloppy. In their defense, they are incredibly simple, and they have a reputation for reliability, but I think that long flat bar sliding against a piece of plastic can never be modified into something smooth and crisp.

        I'll disassemble again and wipe off the lubricant. I think I've got the surfaces as polished as reasonable.

        In the process of studying the trigger assembly, it was also interesting to figure out how simple it would be to convert the gun to full auto; it requires virtually no modification at all, although designing it to a reduced rate of fire would be a little more challenging.

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        • #5
          kcstott
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Nov 2011
          • 11796

          Originally posted by Libtard
          Thank you for taking so much time to answer my questions.

          I think that Glock has so much going for them in their reputation these days, that it's not surprising that so many first-time buyers choose one. I can't speak to all the experience you have; I mean, that's why I ask questions, right? I haven't shot lots of different guns. But I'm not as accurate with the Glock as I'd like, and the trigger really does have a gritty feel to it. Now that I've disassembled and studied it, I can see why. I haven't studied other trigger assemblies, but I think Glock's is pretty cheap and very sloppy. In their defense, they are incredibly simple, and they have a reputation for reliability, but I think that long flat bar sliding against a piece of plastic can never be modified into something smooth and crisp.

          I'll disassemble again and wipe off the lubricant. I think I've got the surfaces as polished as reasonable.

          In the process of studying the trigger assembly, it was also interesting to figure out how simple it would be to convert the gun to full auto; it requires virtually no modification at all, although designing it to a reduced rate of fire would be a little more challenging.



          Problem is it's felony stupid to even consider it and it would actually make the weapon less useful. Fun to shot but zero practical use.

          A word of advice.... It's not advisable to post such conversation. Anything remotely promoting illegal activity is bad news, Moderators don't like it. It throws up a red flag to readers and the ATF, FBI, and DOJ actively monitor this site.

          I won't go into detail but converting a weapon to select fire is not the hard part. Staying out of prison is. and since I enjoy me freedom, and my life and my guns. I'll go rent full auto in Vegas thank you very much.

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          • #6
            Libtard
            Member
            • Jul 2014
            • 437

            Originally posted by kcstott
            Problem is it's felony stupid to even consider it and it would actually make the weapon less useful. Fun to shot but zero practical use.



            A word of advice.... It's not advisable to post such conversation. Anything remotely promoting illegal activity is bad news, Moderators don't like it. It throws up a red flag to readers and the ATF, FBI, and DOJ actively monitor this site.



            I won't go into detail but converting a weapon to select fire is not the hard part. Staying out of prison is. and since I enjoy me freedom, and my life and my guns. I'll go rent full auto in Vegas thank you very much.
            Fully automatic weapons are legal in most states with the proper license, which most citizens can obtain. And I know of no law which bans discussing how a trigger works.

            That said, I've seen videos of fully automatic Glocks in operation, and they are by all accounts pointless and dangerous to the operator.

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            • #7
              kcstott
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Nov 2011
              • 11796

              Originally posted by Libtard
              Fully automatic weapons are legal in most states with the proper license, which most citizens can obtain. And I know of no law which bans discussing how a trigger works.

              That said, I've seen videos of fully automatic Glocks in operation, and they are by all accounts pointless and dangerous to the operator.
              Yes full autos are legal in most states. But you cannot convert a weapon to be full auto anywhere in the US.

              Manufacturing one is just about all but legal. As in you need to be a class three dealer a 07 FFL and get permission to build ONE for testing. and then they may still say no. so what then.

              outside of that you need to go back to 1986 weapon and buy from a pool of limited weapons.

              And no it's not illegal to discuss how a trigger operates it's just raises red flags in everyones mind. Not to mention we do in fact have the ATF and DOJ filtering through here quite regularly. So it's best to maintain a low profile to the enemy they may be low on ammo.

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              • #8
                Libtard
                Member
                • Jul 2014
                • 437

                Originally posted by kcstott
                Yes full autos are legal in most states. But you cannot convert a weapon to be full auto anywhere in the US.
                Thanks for the explanation. I had no intention of making such a mod, but it's good to understand that's it's strictly illegal anyway.

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                • #9
                  2glock3
                  CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                  • Dec 2012
                  • 474

                  I used a q-tip and some metal polish.
                  I thought it was "We the people."

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                  • #10
                    Germz
                    Vendor/Retailer
                    • Apr 2013
                    • 4691

                    Originally posted by Libtard
                    it was also interesting to figure out how simple it would be to convert the gun to full auto; it requires virtually no modification at all....

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                    • #11
                      Libtard
                      Member
                      • Jul 2014
                      • 437

                      Honestly, I'm only interested in smoothing out the trigger.

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                      • #12
                        ThePeaceMaker707
                        Member
                        • Feb 2011
                        • 147

                        I got a 3.5lb connector from Ghost Inc. I installed that, at the same time doing the 25 cent trigger job. I'm very pleased with how it turned out. It may not be the best trigger in the world, but it gets the job done, and it feels just fine to me. No complaints. One thing I love about the Glock trigger is the very prominent sear reset.
                        "The power under the Constitution will always be in the people. It is entrusted for certain defined purposes, and for a certain limited period, to representatives of their own choosing; and whenever it is executed contrary to their interest, or not agreeable to their wishes, their servants can and undoubtedly will be recalled."
                        --George Washington

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                        • #13
                          kcstott
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Nov 2011
                          • 11796

                          Originally posted by Libtard
                          Honestly, I'm only interested in smoothing out the trigger.
                          I hear ya

                          It's just a bit of advice to keep the Mods happy

                          Originally posted by ThePeaceMaker707
                          I got a 3.5lb connector from Ghost Inc. I installed that, at the same time doing the 25 cent trigger job. I'm very pleased with how it turned out. It may not be the best trigger in the world, but it gets the job done, and it feels just fine to me. No complaints. One thing I love about the Glock trigger is the very prominent sear reset.
                          You mean that "THUNK" you hear and feel when you let off?? yeah theres no mistaking what that is.

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                          • #14
                            Rbutler
                            Senior Member
                            • Jul 2009
                            • 675

                            I do this to most my triggers. The trick is GO SLOW. dremels are your best friend but can turn into your worst enemy quick. I usualy just use flitz on a terry cloth unless the trigger is bad then ill use the felt polishing wheel on the dremel and go low speed for short bursts and check. Would rather take 2 hours geting it right then ruin it.

                            also side note you can polish your chamber and feed ramps too. Same concept go slow.
                            primer, powder, projecile, press, load, fire repeat!

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                            • #15
                              Libtard
                              Member
                              • Jul 2014
                              • 437

                              Glock "Twenty-Five Cent Trigger" Job

                              Originally posted by Rbutler
                              I do this to most my triggers. The trick is GO SLOW. dremels are your best friend but can turn into your worst enemy quick. I usualy just use flitz on a terry cloth unless the trigger is bad then ill use the felt polishing wheel on the dremel and go low speed for short bursts and check. Would rather take 2 hours geting it right then ruin it.

                              also side note you can polish your chamber and feed ramps too. Same concept go slow.
                              Thanks!! I added the 3.5 lb connector. My accuracy is getting much better. I don't know if it's the trigger or the practice, but it's nice to see the holes in the middle, finally.

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