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  • Baeleron
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2013
    • 615

    AK RSB pin removal

    Hey guys, I'm trying to remove the RSB from a torched barrel, and can't get the RSB pin to come out. I've tried pressing it out and I've tried pounding it out (3 lb hammer with a solid backing). I simply can't make that thing move. Any ideas? Should I drill it out?
  • #2
    Alex$
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2009
    • 1233

    Try the other side. Failing that, drill.

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    • #3
      ar15barrels
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Jan 2006
      • 57106

      If you decide to drill it, drill undersized and only about 3/4 of the way through.
      Then, increase the drill bit size until the wall thickness of the pin is very thin, but without breaking out of the pin and into the RSB.
      Now, slip a punch in the drilled hole and drive the pin out.
      It will come out considerably easier once you get rid of most of the core of the pin.
      Randall Rausch

      AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
      Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
      Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
      Barrel, sight and trigger work on most pistols and shotguns.
      Most work performed while-you-wait.

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      • #4
        Carzy Driver
        Junior Member
        • Mar 2010
        • 15

        I'm having the same issue removing the RSB pin from my AK63D kit, the pin simply does not want to move. I'm using a 55 ton ironworker as my press and still nothing

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        • #5
          Baeleron
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2013
          • 615

          Originally posted by ar15barrels
          If you decide to drill it, drill undersized and only about 3/4 of the way through.
          Then, increase the drill bit size until the wall thickness of the pin is very thin, but without breaking out of the pin and into the RSB.
          Now, slip a punch in the drilled hole and drive the pin out.
          It will come out considerably easier once you get rid of most of the core of the pin.
          Is it common to have to drill?

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          • #6
            ar15barrels
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Jan 2006
            • 57106

            Originally posted by Carzy Driver
            I'm having the same issue removing the RSB pin from my AK63D kit, the pin simply does not want to move. I'm using a 55 ton ironworker as my press and still nothing
            Post a picture of your press setup.
            Randall Rausch

            AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
            Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
            Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
            Barrel, sight and trigger work on most pistols and shotguns.
            Most work performed while-you-wait.

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            • #7
              Baeleron
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2013
              • 615

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              • #8
                ar15barrels
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Jan 2006
                • 57106

                Originally posted by Baeleron
                Is it common to have to drill?
                No.
                The trick is all in concentrating the force where you want it.
                I can't see in your picture if you are trying to press the pin against a pressing block or if there is room under the RSB for the pin to press through.
                Randall Rausch

                AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
                Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                Barrel, sight and trigger work on most pistols and shotguns.
                Most work performed while-you-wait.

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                • #9
                  Baeleron
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2013
                  • 615

                  Originally posted by ar15barrels
                  No.
                  The trick is all in concentrating the force where you want it.
                  I can't see in your picture if you are trying to press the pin against a pressing block or if there is room under the RSB for the pin to press through.
                  There is room. I make many mistakes but not that one

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                  • #10
                    bksa
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2011
                    • 2012

                    soak in liquid wrench

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                    • #11
                      ar15barrels
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Jan 2006
                      • 57106

                      Originally posted by Baeleron
                      There is room. I make many mistakes but not that one
                      Something to try:

                      If you have an AKbuilder barrel press kit, it comes with that piece that holds the 1/4" diameter dowel pins on the end of your press ram.
                      Make yourself a starter punch that is 5/32" diameter for about 1/8" and then tapers up to 1/4" where it slides into that dowel pin holder.
                      Harden the bejesus out of the starter punch.

                      The more solid your pressing setup, the more force you can concentrate where you want it.

                      On my press, I have a threaded ram and all my press tooling screws into the press ram so there is no need to hold it, or any worry about it "kicking out" as you have with the vise grips...
                      Randall Rausch

                      AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
                      Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                      Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                      Barrel, sight and trigger work on most pistols and shotguns.
                      Most work performed while-you-wait.

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                      • #12
                        Baeleron
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2013
                        • 615

                        Yeah it does kick out. I tried making the starter punch with the press ram that you described, but didn't think to harden it. It just mushroomed. I will try again and harden it. Thanks for the idea.

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                        • #13
                          ar15barrels
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Jan 2006
                          • 57106

                          Originally posted by Baeleron
                          Yeah it does kick out. I tried making the starter punch with the press ram that you described, but didn't think to harden it. It just mushroomed. I will try again and harden it. Thanks for the idea.
                          Get yourself a piece of oil or water hardening 1/4" diameter "drill rod" for making all different sized pin pushers that will slip into the 1/4" holder.
                          Keep them as short as possible for the job that each one needs to do.
                          Harden them really well.
                          No more "kicking out"...
                          Randall Rausch

                          AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
                          Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                          Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                          Barrel, sight and trigger work on most pistols and shotguns.
                          Most work performed while-you-wait.

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                          • #14
                            00Medic
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2011
                            • 1941

                            Originally posted by bksa
                            soak in liquid wrench
                            ^THIS!! Works every time.
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                            • #15
                              Baeleron
                              Senior Member
                              • Oct 2013
                              • 615

                              Success, RSB/GB/FSB pins removed. I put liquid wrench on them overnight, then managed to press them out using a shortened pin punch. (My attempt at making a custom pin punch failed because I couldn't harden it enough for it not to bend. Probably the wrong kind of steel). They popped pretty loudly when they first moved... they weren't ever coming out by banging on them with a hammer.

                              Anyway, thanks for the help guys.

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