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  • itsallgood
    Member
    • Dec 2010
    • 112

    1911 build

    OK so I finally gathered enough cash to get the upper parts kit and I installed everything after watching several videos. However, there are a couple things I am having trouble with. Can anyone help. My ejector is not a pinned type and there is no hole in the frame for a pin. i read about gluing the ejector in and I guess that's the way it will be. However, the ejector does not fit all the way in so the slide won't clear it. Should I file the ling stake on the ejector down so the ejector sits flush to the frame? The other issue is the hammer sits up so the slide doesn't clear it but hard stops so it won't pass to fully retract. I took it back apart and reinstalled everything and it still does so. I compared it to my Kimber Warrior II and it doesn't look any different in hight. I also put the slide on the frame when I took everything out again and it retracts all the way. Does anyone have any suggestions. I can't really post pics because I have been having technical difficulties with my computer. OK, that's all, any responses would be appreciated; even the you're stupid kind.
  • #2
    ar15barrels
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Jan 2006
    • 57099

    Drill the hole for the pin, then install it correctly.
    The ejector should sit flush to the frame.
    Don't even think about gluing your ejector in...
    Last edited by ar15barrels; 06-13-2014, 9:45 AM.
    Randall Rausch

    AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
    Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
    Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
    Barrel, sight and trigger work on most pistols and shotguns.
    Most work performed while-you-wait.

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    • #3
      bob_e95482
      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
      • Aug 2009
      • 1202

      Originally posted by ar15barrels
      Drill the hole for the pin, then install it correctly.
      The extractor should sit flush to the frame.
      Don't even think about gluing your extractor in...
      Ejector.

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      • #4
        Nathan Krynn
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2009
        • 2107

        OP Randall gave great advice.

        Remember this is a 1911, not an AR-15. People get spoiled with the AR and think guns are like that but really most guns need fitting and the 1911 is a classic example. If you see the phrase "drop in" and "1911" in the same sentence, RUN.
        Nathan
        Tactical Machining
        1270 Biscayne Blvd
        Deland, FL 32724
        Phone 386-490-4464
        fax 386-490-4890

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        • #5
          tr6guns
          Senior Member
          • Mar 2013
          • 643

          I run all my 1911s with no ejector pin, the slide will hold it in. I'll probably hear **** on this but I have well over a 1,000 rounds shot out of at least 5 1911s with no problems..

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          • #6
            ar15barrels
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Jan 2006
            • 57099

            Originally posted by bob_e95482
            Ejector.

            Extractor, Ejector, they both start with "E" and end with "ctor" and we all knew what we were talking about...
            Last edited by ar15barrels; 06-13-2014, 9:48 AM.
            Randall Rausch

            AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
            Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
            Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
            Barrel, sight and trigger work on most pistols and shotguns.
            Most work performed while-you-wait.

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            • #7
              kcstott
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Nov 2011
              • 11796

              Can we all do one F'in thing?? Get that damn AR terminology out of your head unless you are in fact referring to a AR based weapons platform!!

              1911's don't have uppers
              Nor do they have lowers
              They have slides and frames.
              AK's have ONE receiver not an upper or lower
              FNFAL's and L1A1 have receivers and trigger groups not uppers and lowers
              I'm so sick and tired of fricken gamers learning one set of nominclature and applying it across the board.
              Statements like the op of having an upper kit for a 1911, or " I need a jig for my AK lower" or " I need someone to weld my front sight on my G3 gas piston tube"??

              Texting, the internet, and lack of social interaction will be the death of the human race.
              Last edited by kcstott; 06-13-2014, 10:38 AM.

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              • #8
                ChuckD
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 1339

                Originally posted by kcstott
                Can we all do one F'in thing?? Get that damn AR terminology out of your head unless you are in fact referring to a AR based weapons platform!!

                1911's don't have uppers
                Nor do they have lowers
                They have slides and frames.
                AK's have ONE receiver not an upper or lower
                FNFAL's and L1A1 have receivers and trigger groups not uppers and lowers
                I'm so sick and tired of fricken gamers learning one set of nominclature and applying it across the board.
                Statements like the op of having an upper kit for a 1911, or " I need a jig for my AK lower" or " I need someone to weld my front sight on my G3 gas piston tube"??

                Texting, the internet, and lack of social interaction will be the death of the human race.
                Completely agree. One of my blacksmithing mentors, Brian Brazeal, would describe using the wrong terminology in this manor as "a disservice to humanity"!

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                • #9
                  Nathan Krynn
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2009
                  • 2107

                  While I understand what you guys are saying just remember that not everyone has our experience and come to us for aide.

                  Believe me I talk to hundreds of people a day and have to translate what they mean and sometimes it can be trying sometimes.
                  Nathan
                  Tactical Machining
                  1270 Biscayne Blvd
                  Deland, FL 32724
                  Phone 386-490-4464
                  fax 386-490-4890

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                  • #10
                    kcstott
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Nov 2011
                    • 11796

                    Originally posted by Nathan Krynn
                    While I understand what you guys are saying just remember that not everyone has our experience and come to us for aide.

                    Believe me I talk to hundreds of people a day and have to translate what they mean and sometimes it can be trying sometimes.
                    Nathan
                    Speaking in pure generality here, I agree But what this issue really comes down to is a complete and total lack of initiative take by people either new to the shooting sports or confined in the AR box. The lack of initiative the last generation shows astounds me. Can't google a damn thing, can't pick up a book to save their life. Wouldn't find them in a public library if their life depended on it. There's a wealth of information on the web but it pales in comparison with what is already in print, and you can't google it. You have to put forth some effort and actually leave your house and filter through some printed material at the local library.

                    I see all the time "I need a youtube video on how to assemble my AR?" "Can someone post a pic of what the FCG should look like" "How do I adjust A2 sights?" HOW DO I CLEAN A GUN?" ???? WTF Really There is a book for that and it's cheep and it's also on the web as a PDF. It don't need batteries, You can read it in bright sun light and if you dog ear the page you won't forget where you left off.

                    Everything an owner of an AR15 needs to know is in the USMC essential subjects manual. It covers Cleaning, maintenance, Operation and troubleshooting, marksmanship and how to set up your iron sights.

                    Now if you want more advanced info, download the Tech manual for the weapon system. It's not like I don't have them listed on my web site for free down load.

                    The same thing applies to other weapons systems, Handguns, Pistols, Bolt rifles, Shotguns, Other semi autos, all that information can be found in the owners manual.

                    But oh no these guys can't do that god forbid

                    I don't mind helping with specific questions that answers are hard to find even in a book. But friggin Guns 101 questions. Stuff that can be found in the owners manual of the weapon. No way I will only help those that choose to help themselves. Show me some initiative and you will get my help.

                    Rant off/

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                    • #11
                      Brandon04GT
                      In Memoriam
                      • Feb 2011
                      • 3016

                      If you're planning on drilling the hole for the ejector pin then make you have your measurements exact as you will be drilling very close to the disconnector channel. Also, when notching the front ejector post to accomodate the pin, you will be better off making the groove a HAIR too far up rather than down as this will help create a tight, no-loose fit. The Kuhnhausen shop manual as a very good explaination on all of this.

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                      • #12
                        itsallgood
                        Member
                        • Dec 2010
                        • 112

                        Wow what a d... I hope he's not married. Can't imagine anyone putting up with such a condescending p... I figured some people who have built before would have some constructive things to say. I wouldn't seek out your help if you offered it for free. Why don't you go crawl back under your Neanderthal rock. Maybe take a class in appropriate social interaction.

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                        • #13
                          kcstott
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Nov 2011
                          • 11796

                          Originally posted by itsallgood
                          Wow what a d... I hope he's not married. Can't imagine anyone putting up with such a condescending p... I figured some people who have built before would have some constructive things to say. I wouldn't seek out your help if you offered it for free. Why don't you go crawl back under your Neanderthal rock. Maybe take a class in appropriate social interaction.
                          Social interaction is what I'm talking about. you don't learn the shooting sports from an X box.
                          You mean like sensitivity class. Not on your life. I said what I said and stand by every word no apologies

                          All I can say about myself is when you meet I'll tell to your face what I say behind your back. and if you need a translation for that, I'm not some two faced prick that BS's you just to talk crap behind your back. I'm am who I am and make no apologies for it.
                          Married no I wouldn't throw my money away like that

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                          • #14
                            Nathan Krynn
                            Senior Member
                            • Oct 2009
                            • 2107

                            kcstott didn't offend me in the least, and he shouldn't anyone else IMHO. I wasn't saying what I did in a bad way to him, at least didn't mean too. You discount him for wanting people to use correct terminology yet if you go back through his posts (I have read this forum for years) you will see he is a smart guy who has a lot of knowledge to share.

                            I understand where he is coming from, I just keep keep it bottled up and shoot things after work as a pressure release.

                            Seriously I try to help people and teach them little things here and there, terminology is one of those things.

                            I apprenticed under two 90+ year old gunsmiths at two separate times in my life and one when I was single digits of age. If you think what he said was rough, let me tell you that's nothing from people who know this kind of stuff and are willing to share their hard earned knowledge. He is willing to help people, just asks they use the right terms and that means they didn't just go straight to "lets post on the web VS looking it up".
                            Nathan
                            Tactical Machining
                            1270 Biscayne Blvd
                            Deland, FL 32724
                            Phone 386-490-4464
                            fax 386-490-4890

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                            • #15
                              itsallgood
                              Member
                              • Dec 2010
                              • 112

                              Whatever guys. I was just throwing it back. I asked for it in the thread. I have now been educated on appropriate terminology. I appreciate all the responses. I am almost done with this project. Had to shave some off the grip safety. These are things that I hesitate to do for fear of screwing up. That is why I posted the questions in the first place. No hard feelings here about what kcstott said.

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