long rivet tool: Ak-builder vs Toth

[Baeleron]

So now that BPs are a thing of the past, I'm finally breaking down and preparing to pull the trigger on a tool for doing the center support and long trunnion rivets, and agonizing between the Toth and the Ak-builder tools (I've already got the Toth bolt cutter tool for the short rivets). Money isn't really a show-stopper, but I'm leaning toward the Toth because it costs around half of the Ak-builder tool and looks like it'll do what I need just fine. But do you guys have any wisdom on it?

[kcstott]

I'd get the toth tool or if you have the means build your own

[Joe Blowitup]

Just bought and used a toth lrj and would say its good to go. I got it from arms of america and it was 10$ cheeper than Roth. Thought about building one myself but decided it was not worth my time or the money I would spend on tools to build a tool.

[tujungatoes]

I'd get the toth tool or if you have the means build your own

The ak-builder long rivet jig is the only thing curtis makes that I don't like.

[kcstott]

The ak-builder long rivet jig is the only thing curtis makes that I don't like.

Yeah I copied his as you know and found out the hard way why no one really likes it.

I had to go back and make a dedicated long rivet tool and bought the bolt cutter jaws so now my over arm tool is only used for side folders.

Well right now they ain't being used at all and probably only for my own stuff from here on out. I don't for see ever doing build assists for people again

[ar15barrels]

Make your own like I did:

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=909817

[Baeleron]

Thanks guys. Until now I had only heard good things about the ak-builder tool. It's funny, I don't need any more AKs, but I've got this urge to build. I may eventually try to learn some wielding too, because the rewield projects some of you guys do have blown me away with their awesomeness.