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  • skyhanger00
    Member
    • Sep 2013
    • 145

    Fitting bolt to bolt carrier.

    I purchased a PSA NiB bolt carrier recently, and it looks beautiful and perfectly machined. Now I'm trying to replace the 5.56 bolt with another NiB bolt for a 6.5 Grendel project I'm building working on. However, I've found that the 6.5 bolt diameter happens to be 0.001" larger than the diameter of the original 5.56 bolt, which fit tight in snug in the PSA carrier.

    The new Grendel bolt can also fit into the bolt carrier, but it fits extremely tight, and takes some force to move around. I think i need to remove 0.001" from the bolt exterior ring of the new bolt. What's the best way to do so? Getting a some lapping compound and stroking the bolt back in forth in the bolt carrier? Or will gun oil and metal on metal be enough?
  • #2
    buellster
    Member
    • Apr 2012
    • 384

    NiB is really hard, that's the point. Sounds like the 6.5 bolt might be out of spec. I would contact the manufacturer
    "Every great cause begins as a movement, becomes a business, and eventually degenerates into a racket."
    -Eric Hoffer

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    • #3
      valley82
      Veteran Member
      • Dec 2011
      • 2768

      Possible the manufacturer did not take into account the layer of NiB on top of the bolt.

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      • #4
        Patrick Aherne
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2006
        • 1064

        Just shoot it.

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        • #5
          Full Clip
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Dec 2006
          • 10266

          Originally posted by skyhanger00
          Or will gun oil and metal on metal be enough?
          Yes. That and 500 rounds.

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          • #6
            kcstott
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Nov 2011
            • 11796

            Originally posted by Full Clip
            Yes. That and 500 rounds.
            and 30Kpsi of gas pressure

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            • #7
              skyhanger00
              Member
              • Sep 2013
              • 145

              Originally posted by Patrick Aherne
              Just shoot it.
              Don't want my gun to blow up on me. It's need pliers for removal tight. I think I might need to lap the bolt exterior ring on the bolt just to be safe.

              Is it the gas rings or the bolt exterior ring that's the source of contact between the carrier and bolt?
              (This grendel bolt has a unique gas ring made of up a long coil that goes around 5 times instead of 3 seprate rings with gap)

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              • #8
                6mmintl
                Veteran Member
                • Apr 2008
                • 4822

                I can Polish it out for you if you want to come to mid peninsula, redwood city area.

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                • #9
                  kendog4570
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Dec 2008
                  • 5180

                  On NiB bolts and carriers, usually the bolt tail is tight in it's bore, due to the build up of the coating on one or the other, or both. If there was a spec. for this from Uncle Sam, there would be enough clearance. Not so with boutique market items.

                  A solution for where no problem exists.

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                  • #10
                    kcstott
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Nov 2011
                    • 11796

                    Originally posted by skyhanger00
                    Don't want my gun to blow up on me. It's need pliers for removal tight. I think I might need to lap the bolt exterior ring on the bolt just to be safe.

                    Is it the gas rings or the bolt exterior ring that's the source of contact between the carrier and bolt?
                    (This grendel bolt has a unique gas ring made of up a long coil that goes around 5 times instead of 3 seprate rings with gap)
                    Its the gas rings that make contact. every thing else has about .012" clearance

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                    • #11
                      skyhanger00
                      Member
                      • Sep 2013
                      • 145

                      Originally posted by kcstott
                      Its the gas rings that make contact. every thing else has about .012" clearance
                      Looks like the one piece gas rings the grendel bolt has (McFarland?) appears to have a reputation for a super tight fit when new. I hope that's the case here.
                      Both sets of 5.56 bolts have the traditional 3 gas rings.

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                      • #12
                        kcstott
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Nov 2011
                        • 11796

                        Originally posted by skyhanger00
                        Looks like the one piece gas rings the grendel bolt has (McFarland?) appears to have a reputation for a super tight fit when new. I hope that's the case here.
                        Both sets of 5.56 bolts have the traditional 3 gas rings.
                        Yeah I replaced all the gas rings on my ARs with the single coil style ring. It is tight but it shoots just fine.

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                        • #13
                          skyhanger00
                          Member
                          • Sep 2013
                          • 145

                          Originally posted by kcstott
                          Yeah I replaced all the gas rings on my ARs with the single coil style ring. It is tight but it shoots just fine.
                          Success! I oiled up the new bolt with the single coil and tried again. After a dozen times stroking the bolt back in forth in the carrier, it started sliding more easily. Still tighter than the 5.56 bolts, but perfectly usable.

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