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  • coyotebait
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2011
    • 1319

    Ted Williams 20 gauge pump ejection issues

    I have a Ted Williams 20 gauge pump shot gun, been in the family for years. The issue I'm having is that after about 3 shots, the shells get stuck, to the point that I have to really crank on the action to open it. When it finally opens, the extractor has slipped, leaving the shell in the chamber, I then use a rod and push it out. This doesn't take much force. Upon examination of the shells, the brass head is partially pulled crooked. I also noticed, that it seems that upon firing, the bolt is pushed slightly opened. I had a complete brain fart and failed to get any pics of the shells.

    Anyone have any ideas?
    Last edited by coyotebait; 04-18-2014, 3:41 PM.
    R.I.P. Chris Kyle. 2/2/13
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    Heretodaygonetomorrow
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2011
    • 582

    I have a Ted Williams 20 gauge that I bought new from a Sears Catalog Surplus Store about 35 years ago. It was made by Winchester and is identical to the Winchester 1200.

    Mine came with a variable choke (Versachoke), vent rib, dual gold beads, and is chambered to fire both 2 3/4" and 3" shells.

    My Uncle bought a couple of 12 gauge Ted Williams shotguns at the same time (also Winchester), and they have plain barrels with single gold beads, straight barrels (not manufactured to accept choke tubes), and chambered for 2 3/4" shells only.

    These shotguns were sold with many barrel options and came with plain barrels, barrels with a vent rib, chambered to fire 2 3/4" OR chambered to fire both 2 3/4" and 3" shells.

    Are you shooting new shells and are you sure that they are the correct size shells? Is the barrel correctly mounted and secured?

    I may have the original owner's manual laying around here somewhere if you can't find a parts list and illustrated drawing.

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    • #3
      coyotebait
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2011
      • 1319

      Originally posted by Heretodaygonetomorrow
      I have a Ted Williams 20 gauge that I bought new from a Sears Catalog Surplus Store about 35 years ago. It was made by Winchester and is identical to the Winchester 1200.

      Mine came with a variable choke (Versachoke), vent rib, dual gold beads, and is chambered to fire both 2 3/4" and 3" shells.

      My Uncle bought a couple of 12 gauge Ted Williams shotguns at the same time (also Winchester), and they have plain barrels with single gold beads, straight barrels (not manufactured to accept choke tubes), and chambered for 2 3/4" shells only.

      These shotguns were sold with many barrel options and came with plain barrels, barrels with a vent rib, chambered to fire 2 3/4" OR chambered to fire both 2 3/4" and 3" shells.

      Are you shooting new shells and are you sure that they are the correct size shells? Is the barrel correctly mounted and secured?

      I may have the original owner's manual laying around here somewhere if you can't find a parts list and illustrated drawing.
      Mine is a 20, it's marked 3 inch. Does not accept choke tubes.
      I took a pic of the chamber, it appears to have a a bur on the outer edge of the chamber where the extractor meets. Am I seeing this correctly? Any tips on polishing it?

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      Last edited by coyotebait; 04-18-2014, 3:40 PM.
      R.I.P. Chris Kyle. 2/2/13

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      • #4
        wweigle
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2012
        • 803

        Looks like it utilizes a rotary bolt which would lead me to believe it was manufactured by Winchester, and is the same as a Winchester model 1300. Lots of info on the model 1300 problems and cures on the net. If it is a 1300 it is a nice gun.

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        • #5
          coyotebait
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2011
          • 1319

          Yes, it is the "Winchester". Just one wore reason I want to make it run nice again.
          R.I.P. Chris Kyle. 2/2/13

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          • #6
            coyotebait
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2011
            • 1319

            [IMG][/IMG]

            Here she is.
            M-200, it's basically a Winchester 1200 with slight changes, mostly cosmetic from what I've read.
            R.I.P. Chris Kyle. 2/2/13

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            • #7
              Heretodaygonetomorrow
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2011
              • 582

              Looks like yours is a twin to mine. I can see the 2nd gold bead on your barrel, just like mine.

              Looks like wear (from something not aligned properly) and crud build up from shooting. Either that or a bad (angle) on the photo.

              Replacement of the barrel may be necessary if that is excessive wear that I'm seeing. I'll have to pull mine out and compare it to your photo.

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              • #8
                coyotebait
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2011
                • 1319

                Originally posted by Heretodaygonetomorrow
                Looks like yours is a twin to mine. I can see the 2nd gold bead on your barrel, just like mine.

                Looks like wear (from something not aligned properly) and crud build up from shooting. Either that or a bad (angle) on the photo.

                Replacement of the barrel may be necessary if that is excessive wear that I'm seeing. I'll have to pull mine out and compare it to your photo.
                Probably bad pic quality, took it with my phone. As luck would have it, I have a dermal with a polishing wheel and some polishing compound. I took to it very cautiously. Will see if that took care of it or not the next time I'm out. If not, it may take a trip to a smith.
                R.I.P. Chris Kyle. 2/2/13

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