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  • weaver91
    Junior Member
    • Jan 2013
    • 21

    M1A barrel swap help

    Hi i have an M1A Scout Squad (18 inch barrel) and I would like to swap the barrel out to a standard length 22 inch barrel. Im hoping there is some one out there that can send a link to a how to guide or maybe a video link so i could do this myself.... i would like to learn this incase i desire to swap back the 18 inch barrel to shoot corrosive ammo or just play around. Thanks!
  • #2
    Lethal_addict
    Member
    • Dec 2006
    • 484

    You need to really look into this carefully, head spacing requires precision and specific tools. If you do this wrong you could have catastrophic results. Best of luck with this!

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    • #3
      a308garand
      Member
      • Mar 2009
      • 303

      It takes a bit of knowledge and tooling to get the barrel installed right.

      Mounting the new barrel is pretty much fitting the relationship between the barrel, receiver and bolt so that everything is within spec. As you shoot rounds, the parts wear into each other. When you fit another barrel, you start over again at square one with the fitting process.

      There is no real guarantee that the long and short barrel will keep fitting the receiver and bolt the same way each time. Stuff wears out and dimentions change. I believe that after several swaps, you would quickly find one or more parts will require too much fitting to allow the other barrel to easily fit at a later date.

      M1A and M1 Garand rifles have their barrels mounted much the same way. take a look here:





      The 18" barrel is a great length, enjoy it as is.
      sigpic

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      • #4
        ar15barrels
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Jan 2006
        • 57148

        Originally posted by weaver91
        Hi i have an M1A Scout Squad (18 inch barrel) and I would like to swap the barrel out to a standard length 22 inch barrel. Im hoping there is some one out there that can send a link to a how to guide or maybe a video link so i could do this myself.... i would like to learn this incase i desire to swap back the 18 inch barrel to shoot corrosive ammo or just play around. Thanks!
        You need a barrel wrench and an action wrench, chamber reamer and headspace gauges.
        Detail strip the front half of the gun down to just the barreled action.
        Un-thread the barrel from the action.
        Ream the chamber of the new barrel for proper headspace.
        Thread in the new barrel into proper index.
        Reassemble the rifle.
        Randall Rausch

        AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
        Handguns: www.handgunbarrels.com
        Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
        Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
        Most work done while you wait on a scheduled shop visit.

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        • #5
          strongpoint
          Veteran Member
          • Dec 2010
          • 3115

          The M14 Complete Assembly Guide

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          • #6
            saki302
            Calguns Addict
            • Oct 2005
            • 7187

            I asked my buddy Randy @ R&D about this a couple years ago.

            He could install the barrel no problem, but you need a pull-thru chamber reamer to do the final cut on the chamber which most gunsmiths do not have.

            Since the M14 receiver is solid at the rear, standard chamber reamers do not work (won't fit, and you can't turn it if it did, at least not easily).

            -Dave

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            • #7
              kendog4570
              Calguns Addict
              • Dec 2008
              • 5180

              Originally posted by saki302
              ... you need a pull-thru chamber reamer to do the final cut on the chamber which most gunsmiths do not have.

              Since the M14 receiver is solid at the rear, standard chamber reamers do not work (won't fit, and you can't turn it if it did, at least not easily).

              -Dave

              This just ain't so. The chamber can be finish cut with the barrel either on or off the receiver, with either type reamer. As a rule, pull through reamers are armorers tools so privates can barrel M1's with a small amount of training.
              Any one that really knows their way around these rifles can do it either way.

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              • #8
                saki302
                Calguns Addict
                • Oct 2005
                • 7187

                Don't you need to cut the chamber after the barrel is installed though, since the bolt locks onto the receiver, not the barrel?

                -Dave

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                • #9
                  ar15barrels
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Jan 2006
                  • 57148

                  Originally posted by saki302
                  Don't you need to cut the chamber after the barrel is installed though, since the bolt locks onto the receiver, not the barrel?

                  -Dave
                  You can check barrel timing into the receiver, then calculate the amount of shoulder crush for proper index, then subtract that from the gauge protrusion you need to end up at for proper headspace as measured to the bolt face from the receiver face.
                  Randall Rausch

                  AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
                  Handguns: www.handgunbarrels.com
                  Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                  Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                  Most work done while you wait on a scheduled shop visit.

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                  • #10
                    saki302
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Oct 2005
                    • 7187

                    I see now.

                    I forgot you are good with math, Randall

                    -Dave

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                    • #11
                      kcstott
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Nov 2011
                      • 11796

                      Originally posted by saki302
                      Don't you need to cut the chamber after the barrel is installed though, since the bolt locks onto the receiver, not the barrel?

                      -Dave
                      Remington
                      Winchester
                      Browning
                      Mauser
                      Sako
                      Savage
                      M1 Garand
                      M1A all have locking lugs in the receiver and everyone of those barrels is chambered off the receiver

                      See the trick to all this is the threads on these M1 and M1A receivers are timed. Something you don't se any more on production guns. So you can take a properly made barrel and install it to proper index and the headspace is correct
                      Little bit of math involved, and little bit of experience based on how much crush you get on the barrel steel. and how much the threads pull up tight.

                      These two guys just went over a longer thread about a Garand and I picked up some very valuable information.

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