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  • DrVino
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    • Nov 2012
    • 378

    Help repopulating Saiga Barrel(s)

    I need help repopulating Saiga Barrels. L.A. area.

    Specifically, I need to:

    - change out the gas blocks (two to the AK74 type, one to an AKM type).
    - change out the front sight blocks
    - thread muzzles and attach brakes (Two zig zags, one slant).

    I would rather find someone who can assist me rather than give me pointers.
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    The Paper Pimp
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    • Mar 2013
    • 967

    you can't change a Saiga GB to an AKM type because the gasport is drilled at a 90 degree angle on Saiga's--and if you were to drill the port for a 45 degree GB you'd have an over gassed gun that would batter the rear trunnion and rivets to death.

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      hellayella
      Calguns Addict
      • Sep 2012
      • 5578

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      • #4
        DrVino
        Member
        • Nov 2012
        • 378

        Originally posted by The Paper Pimp
        you can't change a Saiga GB to an AKM type because the gasport is drilled at a 90 degree angle on Saiga's--and if you were to drill the port for a 45 degree GB you'd have an over gassed gun that would batter the rear trunnion and rivets to death.
        I presume this issue is not a problem when putting in an AK 74, 90 degree gas block?

        Also, what are the chances of finding a 'virgin' undrilled AKM gas block?

        Alternately, what about filling (by welding) at least half of the AKM's 45 degree channel and drilling another one at 90 to meet the existing port on the barrel?
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          SJgunguy24
          I need a LIFE!!
          • May 2008
          • 14849

          Originally posted by The Paper Pimp
          you can't change a Saiga GB to an AKM type because the gasport is drilled at a 90 degree angle on Saiga's--and if you were to drill the port for a 45 degree GB you'd have an over gassed gun that would batter the rear trunnion and rivets to death.
          Not true. You can drill the gas port any size you want to dial in the correct amount of gas to operate the system. The major thing is the 45deg gas block will miss the port that is already drilled. And unless the exsisting port is welded shut it will start to blow a hole through the gas block that's covering the hole.
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            SJgunguy24
            I need a LIFE!!
            • May 2008
            • 14849

            Originally posted by DrVino
            I presume this issue is not a problem when putting in an AK 74, 90 degree gas block?

            Also, what are the chances of finding a 'virgin' undrilled AKM gas block?

            Alternately, what about filling (by welding) at least half of the AKM's 45 degree channel and drilling another one at 90 to meet the existing port on the barrel?
            No the 100 series parts are based off the 74 stuff, they line up perfectly.
            That would mean drilling through the bottom of the AKM block to match the existing port. Depends on where that lands but it could mean drilling through the Bayo lug. You could cut a small groove in the barrel itself to allow the gas to get to the AKM port, but then you open up the possibility of erosion issues later on.
            There are 3 kinds of people in this world.
            The wise, learn from the mistakes of others.
            The smart, learn from their own mistakes.
            The others, well......they just never learn.

            "Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, Give Me Liberty, Or Give Me Death!"
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              DrVino
              Member
              • Nov 2012
              • 378

              Originally posted by SJgunguy24
              No the 100 series parts are based off the 74 stuff, they line up perfectly.
              That would mean drilling through the bottom of the AKM block to match the existing port. Depends on where that lands but it could mean drilling through the Bayo lug. You could cut a small groove in the barrel itself to allow the gas to get to the AKM port, but then you open up the possibility of erosion issues later on.
              OK

              I guess the biggest issue seems to be having an "overgassed" system as Paper Pimp mentioned.

              I intend to put a lot of rounds through this gun, so I want to be sure that if I fill/weld shut the current port in the barrel, it will hold.

              Obviously, that opens me up to corrosion from the inside of the bore.

              How would you prevent erosion in the groove you propose?
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