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  • Delta Duck
    Junior Member
    • Feb 2013
    • 61

    Upper issue

    I just put my second AR together. After almost a 5 month wait from RGuns I got my kit in. I had thought I was getting a complete parts kit but the upper had been assembled. Great less work for me but also no chance for me to learn the process by building it on my own. I get the lower put together added the upper and notice the bolt doesnt want to open - I took it off and the same thing it wont open - out of the box there is an issue.
    I read online and after seeing that new guns may be a little sticky I pulled a little harder and it opened - when it did a spring fell out and now there is something rattling around inside? I was thinking forward assist but I wanted to ask here in case someone has another idea.
    Of course I called RGuns and left a VM. I also emailed and hopefully will hear back. I dont want to have to send it in - it took too damn long to get it.
    Thanks in advance
    B
  • #2
    duggan
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2011
    • 1821

    How's the BCG look, everything where it should be? Quick way to tell what springs go where is to look at a parts diagram for the upper, that should nail down where the spring came from.
    A gun, like any other source of power, is a force for either good or evil, being neither in itself, but dependent upon those who possess it.

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    • #3
      m16
      Veteran Member
      • Aug 2010
      • 2527

      Post a pic of the spring.
      Marine Raider Foundation

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      • #4
        Delta Duck
        Junior Member
        • Feb 2013
        • 61

        Spring Pic

        It is about 1 1/4 inch long

        I looked at the upper parts diagram and see any spring this size?

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        • #5
          m16
          Veteran Member
          • Aug 2010
          • 2527

          That looks like a forward assist spring, and explains why it was hard to cycle the action.

          Someone probably put the spring in front of the roll pin, instead of behind it (if that's even possible).
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          • #6
            biglou
            Senior Member
            • May 2007
            • 1317

            Take the forward assist apart and then put it back together, then cycle it again and see what happens.

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            • #7
              lwbyo1
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2009
              • 712

              Originally posted by Delta Duck
              Spring Pic

              It is about 1 1/4 inch long

              I looked at the upper parts diagram and see any spring this size?
              That looks like a mag catch spring.

              Check the forward assist . Is it under spring pressure? If not, then they probably put the wrong spring in it.
              Sometimes I wonder why I even bother. Some people are just incapable of understanding the simplest of things.
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              • #8
                Gutpile66
                Member
                • Mar 2013
                • 434

                Could that be the action buffer catch spring?

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                • #9
                  DFence
                  • Feb 2012
                  • 1368

                  Originally posted by Gutpile66
                  Could that be the action buffer catch spring?
                  Wtf is a action buffer catch spring??
                  Its not paranoid.....its prepared.

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                  • #10
                    steelheadmike
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2013
                    • 691

                    Originally posted by DFence
                    Wtf is a action buffer catch spring??
                    Buffer detent spring maybe.

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                    • #11
                      steelheadmike
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2013
                      • 691

                      So the bcg won't come out of the upper when you have it detached from the lower? Where's the rattle?

                      My first thought was you may some how snapped off your buffer detent but if the bcg won't come out of the upper when you have it detached, it kinda throws my theory out the window.

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                      • #12
                        lwbyo1
                        Senior Member
                        • Feb 2009
                        • 712

                        It's not a buffer retainer spring.

                        The buffer retainer spring is shorter, narrower, has more coils and the coils are compressed closer together.

                        It looks like a mag catch spring.
                        Sometimes I wonder why I even bother. Some people are just incapable of understanding the simplest of things.
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                        • #13
                          DFence
                          • Feb 2012
                          • 1368

                          How about a pic if the whole gun??? Pretty vague with your problems.

                          Not knowing what you have and don't have assembled isn't helping.
                          Its not paranoid.....its prepared.

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                          • #14
                            DFence
                            • Feb 2012
                            • 1368

                            Originally posted by steelheadmike
                            Buffer detent spring maybe.
                            Possibly. But parts are known as their parts. Not make believe nomenclature
                            Its not paranoid.....its prepared.

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