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  • Marcus von W.
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    • Apr 2010
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    Last edited by Marcus von W.; 02-09-2015, 12:46 PM.
  • #2
    NastyNate
    Senior Member
    • May 2012
    • 1697

    Tagged for paint suggestions. I was thinking of using some black BBQ paint myself.
    -NN

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    • #3
      Cheezle56
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2012
      • 938

      Have someone do a semigloss Cerakote. I'm having my Bulgy 74M coated and the gunsmith is going to get the color close. If the gloss or color is slightly off, the only person who will know will only be you. If you wanna go cheaper, and be more authentic, I reccomend using black automotive paint and blending it to get the right matte/semigloss will replicate the original pretty well. I personally reccomend againt rustoleum BBQ paint because it rubs off way too easily, goes on way too thick. I found that out the hard way...
      If you need help with any stragglers, call a friend, because it's likely that they have a gun. America in particular have done exceptionally well taking care of the problem, as there are 1.12 guns for every 1 American citizen. So throw a rock, you'll probably hit a gun, pick up that gun, then shoot a zombie.

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      • #4
        kcstott
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Nov 2011
        • 11796

        Originally posted by Marcus von W.
        Many years ago I worked for a company that made retractable steps for motor homes. We had these painted a black electro-static "powder paint" finish that was attractive and durable. I wonder how something like this would work on AK's or AK parts like barrel and receiver.

        Anyone here have any experience with this?
        You mean powder coat. It to thick. builds ups to much and will cause issues.

        Cerokote!!!

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        • #5
          isplice
          Member
          • Jan 2006
          • 398

          Spacers are metal.
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          • #6
            DemocracyEnaction
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2011
            • 1270

            Yes cerakote look up GKC armory. they do excellent work.
            "Capitalism is the unequal distribution of wealth; Socialism is the equal distribution of poverty ... Communism is socialism with a gun at your back." - Sir Winston Churchill

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            • #7
              hellayella
              Calguns Addict
              • Sep 2012
              • 5578

              wasn't the Polish parked, Egyptian Maadis and Bulgarians had the gloss black finish

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              • #8
                Tonymin
                Senior Member
                • Mar 2013
                • 768

                I was thinking Duracoat. Though on mine I am going to see first how happy I am with the parkerizing. But that would make a perfect undercoat if not.
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                Looking for locally for sale Nagant revolver

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                • #9
                  CSACANNONEER
                  CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                  CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                  • Dec 2006
                  • 44094

                  I used an original AMD65 FCG in my pistol build. I modified the sear to be semi auto only but, otherwise used the original parts. It has slop from the lack of a rate reducer but, I haven't found the need for spacers. In fact, it's the lightest, smoothest and crispest AK FCG I have.

                  For paint, either go cheap and easy to redo or go with an expensive professional coating. My stepson first parkerized then, primed and painted his build with a multi colored and textured Rustoleum. It came out really nice and cost less than $10.
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                  • #10
                    SJgunguy24
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • May 2008
                    • 14849



                    The spring marked "K" is what you use for a spacer. Cut off the two long wires and trim the coils as needed. You want it kind of loose, if not it will bind and render the disconnector ineffective.

                    As for paint, I use Krylon Barbeque paint, #1618. Make sure it says 1618, they make a couple different high heat paints and after trying about 20 different paints it was the Krylon 1618 that matches. But there's a technique to getting it right. You need to heat the parts up, blast the part first if you can or the paint won't last. Heat the parts up to around 175-200f and spray in 3-4 light coats. Keep it hot between coats and when your done, bake it for 4 hours at 200-225f. Let cool down on it's own.

                    If you get it right, it'll have that pebble like texture that the commie guns have. There is a pebble texture paint but the color is off. The only place I've found Krylon 1618 is O'Reillys/Kragens/ whatever the hell they call it in your area.
                    Prep is the key. When I used the Krylon on customer guns I prepped by blasting, degreasing, phosphate treatment, then heating and baking as I detailed above. When I did that, the Barbeque paint sticks and is very resistant to solvents.

                    This gun came through when the oven was down, I was able to bake the small parts (dust cover, gas tube, bolt and carrier) in the toaster oven but the barreled receiver didn't get baked. I should have waited but the customers gun had been there for a long time and the new elements for the oven hadn't arrived yet.
                    But you can see after spraying everything down with GunScrubber the paint on the small parts wasn't effected like the barreled receiver.
                    Bake it and prep it right and that will give the best chance to have it last.

                    There are 3 kinds of people in this world.
                    The wise, learn from the mistakes of others.
                    The smart, learn from their own mistakes.
                    The others, well......they just never learn.

                    "Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, Give Me Liberty, Or Give Me Death!"
                    Patrick Henry.

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                    • #11
                      hellayella
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Sep 2012
                      • 5578

                      Originally posted by SJgunguy24


                      The spring marked "K" is what you use for a spacer. Cut off the two long wires and trim the coils as needed. You want it kind of loose, if not it will bind and render the disconnector ineffective.

                      As for paint, I use Krylon Barbeque paint, #1618. Make sure it says 1618, they make a couple different high heat paints and after trying about 20 different paints it was the Krylon 1618 that matches. But there's a technique to getting it right. You need to heat the parts up, blast the part first if you can or the paint won't last. Heat the parts up to around 175-200f and spray in 3-4 light coats. Keep it hot between coats and when your done, bake it for 4 hours at 200-225f. Let cool down on it's own.

                      If you get it right, it'll have that pebble like texture that the commie guns have. There is a pebble texture paint but the color is off. The only place I've found Krylon 1618 is O'Reillys/Kragens/ whatever the hell they call it in your area.
                      Prep is the key. When I used the Krylon on customer guns I prepped by blasting, degreasing, phosphate treatment, then heating and baking as I detailed above. When I did that, the Barbeque paint sticks and is very resistant to solvents.

                      This gun came through when the oven was down, I was able to bake the small parts (dust cover, gas tube, bolt and carrier) in the toaster oven but the barreled receiver didn't get baked. I should have waited but the customers gun had been there for a long time and the new elements for the oven hadn't arrived yet.
                      But you can see after spraying everything down with GunScrubber the paint on the small parts wasn't effected like the barreled receiver.
                      Bake it and prep it right and that will give the best chance to have it last.

                      ...i'm a stickler with getting DIY projects except wood refinishing which i'm good at..so I get my rifles professionally done with cerakote and ALUMNAHYDE II....

                      my friend want to take the cheap route and I don't blame him...how would he prep his rifle...(rustoleum semi gloss black)...

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                      • #12
                        SJgunguy24
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • May 2008
                        • 14849

                        Originally posted by hellayella
                        ...i'm a stickler with getting DIY projects except wood refinishing which i'm good at..so I get my rifles professionally done with cerakote and ALUMNAHYDE II....

                        my friend want to take the cheap route and I don't blame him...how would he prep his rifle...(rustoleum semi gloss black)...
                        Sand everything down to bare metal, then hit it with some Ospho, heat paint and bake.
                        There are 3 kinds of people in this world.
                        The wise, learn from the mistakes of others.
                        The smart, learn from their own mistakes.
                        The others, well......they just never learn.

                        "Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, Give Me Liberty, Or Give Me Death!"
                        Patrick Henry.

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                        • #13
                          hellayella
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Sep 2012
                          • 5578

                          what if he's painting over park

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                          • #14
                            SVT-40
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Jan 2008
                            • 12907

                            Rusteolum black appliance epoxy... Baked at 375 for 35 minutes will give a almost perfect match to original AK black....

                            The Russians or Poles never had Duracoat.....

                            The Romanians just parked their rifles....
                            Poke'm with a stick!


                            Originally posted by fiddletown
                            What you believe and what is true in real life in the real world aren't necessarily the same thing. And what you believe doesn't change what is true in real life in the real world.

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