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  • SpaceMan
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2011
    • 865

    Bullet falling really short?...

    Problem:
    I have been shooting out in the desert lately, setting up clays and such at the bases of some nice hills. I've been shooting any where from 10-50 yards with my pistols. When I pick up the sig, no matter what the distance the bullet falls short of the target no matter what the setting on the sights. I have to completely angle the sights to where the rear is about a quarter inch below the front. I'm talking drastic amounts here at close ranges. I spoke to Sig and they told me its $55 for shipping and $50 to find the problem and most likely more to fix it once they identify the issue.

    If any one could help me out I'd appriciate it. I know its a long shot but I can't afford a smith right now.

    Nicholas
    Last edited by SpaceMan; 05-09-2013, 4:36 PM.
    WTB:
    S&W model 69, M&P 45, x2 Ruger vaquero .357
    Power pistol, Accurate no. 7, Green Dot, H110, pistol primers large
    WFT for 300 Blackout
    45-70 & .450 Marlin brass
  • #2
    meaty-btz
    Calguns Addict
    • Sep 2010
    • 8980

    put the gun on a ransom rest and fire it. Only way to be sure it isn't user error. I am not saying you are but I had egg on my face once over the very same issue with a new handgun.

    Contrary to popular belief, handguns are most certainly not one size fits all. There are some guns that really don't work for the user. The problem you describe matches what I went through almost to the T. Ye old, putting them in the dirt, even at close range. Have to compensate with the front sight super high. In the end I sold the gun. Problem was me and the gun just couldn't be friends.
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    • #3
      Pofoo
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2009
      • 1680

      Are you adjusting the sight the right direction?

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      • #4
        arsilva32
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2010
        • 863

        Originally posted by meaty-btz
        put the gun on a ransom rest and fire it. Only way to be sure it isn't user error. I am not saying you are but I had egg on my face once over the very same issue with a new handgun.

        Contrary to popular belief, handguns are most certainly not one size fits all. There are some guns that really don't work for the user. The problem you describe matches what I went through almost to the T. Ye old, putting them in the dirt, even at close range. Have to compensate with the front sight super high. In the end I sold the gun. Problem was me and the gun just couldn't be friends.

        this^^^ sounds like op is Limp Wristing or something, probably cheaper than a smith to fix as well.
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        • #5
          kcstott
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Nov 2011
          • 11796

          Bullets hitting low is a sure sign of relaxing your wrist too soon or jerking the trigger.

          Find someone with a rest and test the weapon.

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          • #6
            caboom
            Junior Member
            • Jan 2010
            • 96

            Sounds like you're moving the rear sight the wrong direction. Move the rear sight the direction you want the bullet to go. Move the rear sight up to make the bullet go up.

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            • #7
              Yemff
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 1111

              What sight picture are you using? Sigs are set up to use a "combat" sight picture, shown as number 3.



              from Sig's website

              "All SIG SAUER production duty/combat pistols are set up to use a "combat" sight picture. This is where the front sight completely covers the bulls eye of the target. Using a six o'clock ("pumpkin on a post") or center mass ("half'n'half") sight picture will result in low impact. SIG SAUER, Inc sights in all non-sporting and non-target pistols for 2.5 inch groupings @ 15 yards. If you are still having trouble please contact Customer Service for further help and instruction. Please have your serial number ready. There are also very helpful free Internet sites that cover pistol group analysis. "
              Charlie don't surf!

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              • #8
                SpaceMan
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2011
                • 865

                I can assure you it's not wrong sight adjustments, as I stated no matter where its adjusted its way off. Also, I've never once had a limp wrist issue with any other pistol I own which is quite a few.

                I'll try benching it this weekend but I'm not expecting much difference. It will be good to at least eliminate some options.
                WTB:
                S&W model 69, M&P 45, x2 Ruger vaquero .357
                Power pistol, Accurate no. 7, Green Dot, H110, pistol primers large
                WFT for 300 Blackout
                45-70 & .450 Marlin brass

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                • #9
                  SpaceMan
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2011
                  • 865

                  I'm familiar with their sights and how they are designed to be used which is why I'm pretty sure there's a non-user error. I'll find out for sure if its user error this weekend.
                  Last edited by SpaceMan; 05-09-2013, 7:08 PM.
                  WTB:
                  S&W model 69, M&P 45, x2 Ruger vaquero .357
                  Power pistol, Accurate no. 7, Green Dot, H110, pistol primers large
                  WFT for 300 Blackout
                  45-70 & .450 Marlin brass

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                  • #10
                    Fjold
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Oct 2005
                    • 22908

                    Move the target in to 5 yards. Rest the front of the pistol on a sandbag with the bottom of your hand on the bench (table, etc).

                    With the sights aligned as SIG says, shoot 5 shots and see if they group on the target.

                    If they are hitting extremely low then you know it's a gun problem.
                    Frank

                    One rifle, one planet, Holland's 375




                    Life Member NRA, CRPA and SAF

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                    • #11
                      uxo2
                      Veteran Member
                      • Dec 2008
                      • 4003

                      what model Sig.
                      and factory or aftermarket sights
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                      • #12
                        Intimid8tor
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 6607

                        Originally posted by SpaceMan
                        I can assure you it's not wrong sight adjustments, as I stated no matter where its adjusted its way off. Also, I've never once had a limp wrist issue with any other pistol I own which is quite a few.

                        I'll try benching it this weekend but I'm not expecting much difference. It will be good to at least eliminate some options.
                        If you already "know" the answer then don't bother asking the question.

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                        • #13
                          knucklehead0202
                          Veteran Member
                          • Aug 2008
                          • 4086

                          Originally posted by meaty-btz
                          put the gun on a ransom rest and fire it. Only way to be sure it isn't user error. I am not saying you are but I had egg on my face once over the very same issue with a new handgun.

                          Contrary to popular belief, handguns are most certainly not one size fits all. There are some guns that really don't work for the user. The problem you describe matches what I went through almost to the T. Ye old, putting them in the dirt, even at close range. Have to compensate with the front sight super high. In the end I sold the gun. Problem was me and the gun just couldn't be friends.
                          +1000! i went through the same thing with my S&W sigma .40. before anyone says it's a crap gun, shut up. the gun was fine, I was the problem. we just weren't meant to be. now and then i'd shoot it ok, but for the most part i was minute-of-dirt with it and we just couldn't work out our problems. i sold it and i don't think i'll buy another .40 anything. i have a .45 and a .357 that i shoot just fine so i really don't need any filler. might later buy a 9 or .380, and possibly a .44 but like the man said, there will just be some guns you don't get along with. try some things before you decide to sell, but it may just not be for you. best of luck!

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