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  • Paul053
    Senior Member
    • May 2011
    • 1061

    Ak barrel gurus

    Got a parts kit lying around with an ak builder barrel in 762, and I wanted to build it up using the bolton block. By getting rid of the traditional front sight and muzzle device detent what do I have to do to the barrel to be able to install a muzzle device like the fsc47?
  • #2
    Ryan in SD
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2009
    • 1966

    Crush washer or loctite.

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    • #3
      nicoroshi
      www.Buildyourownak.info
      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
      • Jan 2009
      • 3696

      I am unsure what a 'bolt on block' is but I do have experience with the PWS FSC47 muzzle brake.
      It screws on standard 14x1mm LH threads of an AKM/ AK-47.
      It does index off the detent in the FSB though so removal of the detent would pose an issue locking the brake indexed in the proper position.

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      • #4
        munkeeboi
        Veteran Member
        • May 2008
        • 4997

        all i can suggest is locktite or pinning it on. maybe a picture of this bolt on block so we know what you are trying to do


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        • #5
          SJgunguy24
          I need a LIFE!!
          • May 2008
          • 14849

          Originally posted by munkeeboi
          all i can suggest is locktite or pinning it on. maybe a picture of this bolt on block so we know what you are trying to do
          Picture a combo block for an SBR 100 series AK. Except now there's 5" of naked barrel out there.
          To the OP, your going to want to lock tite that and just keep an eye on it in case it starts to loosen up. Jim Fuller usually chops those down and silver solders or pins the AK battle comp in place.
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          The smart, learn from their own mistakes.
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          • #6
            Paul053
            Senior Member
            • May 2011
            • 1061

            I've never pinned a barrel. How do you prevent drilling into deep for the pin? Most folks eyeball it or try measuring the barrel thickness with calipers?

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            • #7
              Paul053
              Senior Member
              • May 2011
              • 1061

              I've never pinned a barrel. How do you prevent drilling into deep for the pin? Most folks eyeball it or try measuring the barrel thickness with calipers?

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              • #8
                Carsgunsandchics
                Veteran Member
                • Mar 2009
                • 3537

                I have two of the Bolton Gas Blocks, I got them from Venom Tactical. I use one on my Paratrooper PSL with a crush washer and one on my Draco which will also use a washer.
                Originally posted by fighterpilot562
                I am more of a sucker than a blower...

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                • #9
                  Paul053
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2011
                  • 1061

                  That's the thing, there is nothing on the end of my barrel except for the threads. What are the crush washers crushing against?

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                  • #10
                    kcstott
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Nov 2011
                    • 11796

                    Your going to have to press on a sleeve possibly even silver braze it in place then you'll have something to seat you muzzle break on.

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                    • #11
                      Carsgunsandchics
                      Veteran Member
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 3537

                      Originally posted by Paul053
                      That's the thing, there is nothing on the end of my barrel except for the threads. What are the crush washers crushing against?

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                      On both of mine the washer is up against the Bolton gasblock face.
                      Originally posted by fighterpilot562
                      I am more of a sucker than a blower...

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                      • #12
                        nicoroshi
                        www.Buildyourownak.info
                        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                        • Jan 2009
                        • 3696

                        Seeing SJGG description I can picture it.
                        I would drill, and pin it personally.
                        As to your question of how deep. I drill through the brake (you'll know when it gets to the barrel as you'll hear, and feel the bit drop).
                        Drill slightly into the barrel then remove the brake.
                        Now you can see exactly how deep you're going into the barrel.
                        I use an end mill so that the bottom of my hole is flat, and caliper the thickness of the barrel wall then use a depth gauge as I run the end mill to ensure I am into the barrel but still stay out of the bore.

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                        • #13
                          ar15barrels
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                          • Jan 2006
                          • 57170

                          Originally posted by Paul053
                          I've never pinned a barrel. How do you prevent drilling into deep for the pin? Most folks eyeball it or try measuring the barrel thickness with calipers?
                          I use the z-axis DRO on the mill to watch how deep I am drilling.
                          You only need to be about 0.030" into the threads...
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                          • #14
                            nicoroshi
                            www.Buildyourownak.info
                            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                            • Jan 2009
                            • 3696

                            Originally posted by ar15barrels
                            I use the z-axis DRO on the mill to watch how deep I am drilling.
                            You only need to be about 0.030" into the threads...
                            I didn't have that option before........but I will soon
                            My mill, and lathe have been ordered, and will ship soon.

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                            • #15
                              Paul053
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2011
                              • 1061

                              Having never pinned anything before. Once the muzzle device is pinned how do you prevent the pin from walking out? Or is it like a rivet that when pressed with enough force that it expands out sideways and holds itself in?

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