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  • #16
    kcstott
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Nov 2011
    • 11796

    Umm I don't know what you're getting at but I see a set of feed ramps in the pictures he posted.

    The M4 feed ramps are located on the barrel extension and extend into the upper.

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    • #17
      ar15barrels
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Jan 2006
      • 57170

      Originally posted by sarge1572
      I don't mean to nitpick, but your original post said you thought you had problems with the feed ramp, and you STONED the feed ramp, but your pictures are of the locking lugs, and neither one shows the feed ramp.
      The picture he posted clearly shows the feedramps, both in the upper receiver AND in the barrel extension.
      Are you are looking at the picture on your phone?
      Randall Rausch

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      • #18
        Cobrafreak
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2008
        • 1335

        Mine was doing the same thing as yours. This is how I fixed it. The feed ramps need to begin at the bottom of the aluminum of your lower and flow as one into the steel portion of the ramps. The angle was too steep causing the bullet tip to slam above the chamber before it entered the chamber. Ideally you want the bullet ramp aiming the bullet so the tip goes directly into the chamber. There are lots of examples of proper m4 feed ramps on the web. Print out what you want to accomplish and use a dremel and slowly grind and polish till you achieve perfect feeding 100% of the time.

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        • #19
          Touchdown456
          Member
          • Aug 2009
          • 194

          Thanks for all the info everyone. I may have started this whole thing for no reason. The marks I saw on the Bullet (pic below) may be completely normal, but for some reason I thought they may affect accuracy. Am I wrong to think that a bullet should enter the chamber as clean as possible? Otherwise might little grooves (aside from rifling marks) effect its spin?



          I can post a real picture tonight

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          • #20
            ar15barrels
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Jan 2006
            • 57170

            Originally posted by Touchdown456
            Thanks for all the info everyone. I may have started this whole thing for no reason. The marks I saw on the Bullet (pic below) may be completely normal, but for some reason I thought they may affect accuracy. Am I wrong to think that a bullet should enter the chamber as clean as possible? Otherwise might little grooves (aside from rifling marks) effect its spin?



            I can post a real picture tonight
            The marks are completely normal, but not desireable.
            It woud be better if you did not damage the bullet on the way to the chamber, but that is just a fact-of-life with an autoloader.

            Bolt guns treat the bullet better.
            Randall Rausch

            AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
            Handguns: www.handgunbarrels.com
            Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
            Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
            Most work done while you wait on a scheduled shop visit.

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            • #21
              Cobrafreak
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2008
              • 1335

              AK rifles have a much better trajectory of the 76.2x39 round entering the chamber. This can happen with the AR but you need to fix the feed ramps to do this. If it will load a round very slow via bolt into the chamber it will also do it at full speed.

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              • #22
                kcstott
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Nov 2011
                • 11796

                Originally posted by Touchdown456
                Thanks for all the info everyone. I may have started this whole thing for no reason. The marks I saw on the Bullet (pic below) may be completely normal, but for some reason I thought they may affect accuracy. Am I wrong to think that a bullet should enter the chamber as clean as possible? Otherwise might little grooves (aside from rifling marks) effect its spin?



                I can post a real picture tonight
                Any mark on the bullet will affect accuracy. But by how much?? How much was you? How much was the inherent inaccuracy of the rifle? Of the load?? Wind, Temp shifts, How accurate is accurate??

                You have a semi auto weapon, under no circumstances will it be a precision rifle. Not to say that they can not be improved in accuracy or already are not pretty damn accurate. It's just they will never be bolt rifle accurate.

                You are over thinking it.

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                • #23
                  ar15barrels
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Jan 2006
                  • 57170

                  Originally posted by kcstott
                  You are over thinking it.
                  Over-thinking is the plague of under-doers.
                  Randall Rausch

                  AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
                  Handguns: www.handgunbarrels.com
                  Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                  Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                  Most work done while you wait on a scheduled shop visit.

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