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  • 762x40
    Junior Member
    • Aug 2011
    • 22

    74 Barrel Issue

    Okay I ran into my first problem populating a barrel. While measuring the inner portion of rsb that makes contact with the barrel I found it to measure 0.689, while the barrel portion is between 0.676 - 0.679. I attached a picture so you could see how off it is.

    Any suggestions? New rsb with tighter tolerances? New Barrel?

    Any help will be greatly appreciated, thanks.
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  • #2
    ott1
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2009
    • 1882

    That part of the barrel for the RSB seems way undersize. It should measure .690+-0.02.

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    • #3
      baker1184
      Junior Member
      • Apr 2010
      • 86

      Knurle the barrel?

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      • #4
        762x40
        Junior Member
        • Aug 2011
        • 22

        That part of the barrel for the RSB being way undersized. Is it rare or even fixable?

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        • #5
          762x40
          Junior Member
          • Aug 2011
          • 22

          Originally posted by baker1184
          Knurle the barrel?
          I'm new to knurling, will Knurleing the barrel work for the amount of space that I currently have on the barrel?

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          • #6
            ar15barrels
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Jan 2006
            • 57101

            Originally posted by 762x40
            I'm new to knurling, will Knurleing the barrel work for the amount of space that I currently have on the barrel?
            Straight knurling can give you an effective increase in diameter of 0.010".
            You need 0.020" or more.
            You could get that with some deep knurling, but it will collapse during pressing and will not be as solid as a proper diameter barrel.

            I would look for another barrel.
            Last edited by ar15barrels; 02-27-2013, 10:46 PM.
            Randall Rausch

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            • #7
              ott1
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2009
              • 1882

              Might it be possible to sleeve that part of the barrel and turn it down to size?

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              • #8
                ar15barrels
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Jan 2006
                • 57101

                Originally posted by ott1
                Might it be possible to sleeve that part of the barrel and turn it down to size?
                Yes.
                Randall Rausch

                AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
                Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                Barrel, sight and trigger work on most pistols and shotguns.
                Most work performed while-you-wait.

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                • #9
                  kcstott
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Nov 2011
                  • 11796

                  Originally posted by ott1
                  Might it be possible to sleeve that part of the barrel and turn it down to size?
                  That would be my suggestion

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                  • #10
                    Dan FS71
                    Member
                    • Jun 2009
                    • 403

                    Originally posted by ar15barrels
                    Straight knurling can give you an effective increase in diameter of 0.010".
                    You need 0.020" or more.
                    .
                    Originally posted by 762x40
                    rsb 0.689, barrel is between 0.676 - 0.679. .

                    If he went 20 or more he'd have a press fit of 10thou... This is a machanical impossibility.

                    You need about 11 - 12 thous. Knurling will do the job. If you have a lathe, or have it done this is easily in the range of fixable via knurling. Pressing onto a knurl will typ. 'smear' the metal or gall which will create an even tighter fit then when you started.

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                    • #11
                      ott1
                      Senior Member
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 1882

                      There you go OP, sleeve the barrel and turn it down. Once it's drilled and pinned, the rsb is not going to go anywhere.

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                      • #12
                        Dan FS71
                        Member
                        • Jun 2009
                        • 403

                        Highly doubt sleeving will work at this thickness (thin-ness). Your working with about 10 thou or 5 thou thick sleeve (about the thickness of 2 1/2 human hairs)

                        To cut that precisely you will need a tool post grinder, to not tear the sleeve. Even if you make the sleeve and it doesn't split once you get it down that far... When you go to press the rsb on it will just wrinkle that sleeve up like a piece of tin foil.

                        If your bound to sleeve it turn the barrel rsb journel down some too so the sleeve is thicker and has a chance.

                        Hope this saves some headaches.

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                        • #13
                          ar15barrels
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Jan 2006
                          • 57101

                          Originally posted by Dan FS71
                          Highly doubt sleeving will work at this thickness (thin-ness). Your working with about 10 thou or 5 thou thick sleeve (about the thickness of 2 1/2 human hairs)

                          To cut that precisely you will need a tool post grinder, to not tear the sleeve. Even if you make the sleeve and it doesn't split once you get it down that far... When you go to press the rsb on it will just wrinkle that sleeve up like a piece of tin foil.

                          If your bound to sleeve it turn the barrel rsb journel down some too so the sleeve is thicker and has a chance.

                          Hope this saves some headaches.
                          I agree that you don't want the sleeve to be so thin as it would not survive being pressed back into the trunion.
                          Obviously, you would turn the barrel down before fitting the sleeve so that you can get the sleeve to 0.025" or more.
                          Also, the sleeve should be soldered on to the barrel before you machine it back down to size.
                          Randall Rausch

                          AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
                          Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                          Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                          Barrel, sight and trigger work on most pistols and shotguns.
                          Most work performed while-you-wait.

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                          • #14
                            Paulie Lugnuts
                            Senior Member
                            • Apr 2011
                            • 1756

                            Might be cheaper to buy another barrel.
                            Because milsurp.

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                            • #15
                              762x40
                              Junior Member
                              • Aug 2011
                              • 22

                              Thanks for all the help guys.

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