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  • alpha_romeo_XV
    Veteran Member
    • Jun 2006
    • 2952

    Trouble removing bushmaster FS taper pins

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    mecam
    Veteran Member
    • Jun 2007
    • 4049

    You will need to grind those pins off with a cutoff wheel. Then hammer the pins out. It took me over 20 hard hits to get each pins out and get a steel punch.
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    • #3
      ar15barrels
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Jan 2006
      • 57099

      You just need the support block and the right punch/hammer.



      If that fails, I use the pin pusher I made...





      A Dremel is NEVER required when you have the right tools.
      Randall Rausch

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      • #4
        mecam
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        • Jun 2007
        • 4049

        Nice, I like that pin pusher idea.
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        • #5
          ar15barrels
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Jan 2006
          • 57099

          Originally posted by mecam
          Nice, I like that pin pusher idea.
          That was about generation 3.
          I am on generation 5 now.
          As I break them, I figure ways to make them even stronger.
          Generation 5 should last me a few years as it has replacable tips.

          This is overkill for most people, but then I remove and install a LOT more taper pins that most people.
          Randall Rausch

          AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
          Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
          Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
          Barrel, sight and trigger work on most pistols and shotguns.
          Most work performed while-you-wait.

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          • #6
            alpha_romeo_XV
            Veteran Member
            • Jun 2006
            • 2952

            Thanks guys, now I know my stuck taper pins were more the rule than the exception.
            That Brownel's fixture block looks pretty sexy but I can't justify $40 for a one time job. I'll rig up a gen1 push device from what I got laying around.

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            • #7
              ar15barrels
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Jan 2006
              • 57099

              Originally posted by alpha_romeo_XV
              I'll rig up a gen1 push device from what I got laying around.
              The gen1 push device is a stack of 3-4 #10 flat washers around the large end of the taper pin.
              Then clamp it in the vise with the vise bearing on the small end of the pin like this:

              Randall Rausch

              AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
              Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
              Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
              Barrel, sight and trigger work on most pistols and shotguns.
              Most work performed while-you-wait.

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              • #8
                tophatjones
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2007
                • 1539

                I've also had some trouble with Bushmaster taper pins. They must get em in there real good. For me, I applied some heat with a torch and gave the pins a really good hit. The first couple hits are the most important. Once you get them starting, they'll come out with hardly any effort at all.

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                • #9
                  mltrading
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2006
                  • 1251

                  The Brownells fixture is very useful!!! Also remember not to use brass punch. The brass punch will just twist.

                  I use the Brownells fixture and a Starrett stainless punch. So far I've knocked out more than 50X2 FSB tapper pins without failure.
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                  • #10
                    Josh3239
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Dec 2006
                    • 9189

                    I never have had a problem knocking out FS taper pins, even with Bushmaster uppers. All I use are some punches and a hammer.

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                    • #11
                      alpha_romeo_XV
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                      • Jun 2006
                      • 2952

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                      • #12
                        ar15barrels
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Jan 2006
                        • 57099

                        Originally posted by alpha_romeo_XV
                        I finally got the taper pins out of the front sight block. The problem was that Bushmaster had peened over the small end of the pins creating a rivet head.
                        I'll hazard a guess that you wacked that pin a bunch of times in your early attempts to remove it.
                        YOU peened the end of the pin like a rivet, not bushmaster.
                        I always warn people that if you don't get the pins loose in 2-3 wacks with a hammer/punch, stop and re-evaluate your setup because you are only going to make it worse for yourself when you peen the end of the pin like a rivet.

                        Why do you think I go to so much trouble making removal fixtures and such?
                        Randall Rausch

                        AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
                        Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                        Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                        Barrel, sight and trigger work on most pistols and shotguns.
                        Most work performed while-you-wait.

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                        • #13
                          mltrading
                          Senior Member
                          • Feb 2006
                          • 1251

                          Originally posted by ar15barrels
                          I'll hazard a guess that you wacked that pin a bunch of times in your early attempts to remove it.
                          YOU peened the end of the pin like a rivet, not bushmaster.

                          I always warn people that if you don't get the pins loose in 2-3 wacks with a hammer/punch, stop and re-evaluate your setup because you are only going to make it worse for yourself when you peen the end of the pin like a rivet.

                          Why do you think I go to so much trouble making removal fixtures and such?

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                          Usually I am able to (start to) move the tapper pins at very first whack. In rare cases, it needs the second or third whack to start.

                          AFAIK, none of the manufacturers peen the tapper pin like rivet. The only thing I know is, Vltor suggests users to "stake" the tapper pins. It's "stake" instead of mushroom-like rivets.
                          Last edited by mltrading; 04-26-2008, 1:41 PM.
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                          • #14
                            tophatjones
                            Senior Member
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 1539

                            FWIW, my Bushy had taper pins for sure. However, to even to get them to start moving, I needed to use a propane torch and a series of very solid hits. After that it was no problem.

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                            • #15
                              bohoki
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Jan 2006
                              • 20815

                              anybody know where i could get the standard front sling swivel cheap

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