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  • sdfire
    CGSSA Associate
    • May 2011
    • 1548

    need help with AR barrel

    So heres the story:
    I bought a stripped AR barrel a while ago from an older gentleman that said it was for an AR 15. It looked like an 18" version of a 20" pencil barrel. I was trying to make a straight pull AR upper. So I asked around and found someone to plug the gas port and install a barrel extension. When he got the barrel, he said it was not an AR barrel, but possibly a Daewoo 200 barrel. So I figured it wouldn't work , but he managed to get the barrel extension on, and headspaced, and sent it back to me. So I figured it was good to go, and installed it onto my upper, and took it to the range for some test firing to sight the scope. So I ran 10 rounds through it, and the rounds were chambering and firing, but there was a weird kick to the rifle. So I look at the brass on the ground and am pretty shocked to see that the shoulders were all blown out and cracked on the brass. Pics below.
    I obviously stopped shooting and went home to try and figure out what happened. It looks like the chamber had two shoulders and the rounds were not seating properly. I sent the pics to the person that installed the extension, and because the chamber appears to be Chrome lined, there is nothing that can be done. I was wondering if anybody has seen something like this before, and what could have caused this to happen. Im kind of bummed that I am $100 into this barrel, and almost had it blow up in my face.

    P.S. I guess I still need a barrel to finish this project
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    Last edited by sdfire; 10-24-2013, 12:13 AM.
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  • #2
    kcstott
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Nov 2011
    • 11796

    I'm wondering how the hell he headspaced it like that?
    Off the top of me head it is either not chambered in .223/5.56mm or it is way out of headspace spec.
    Only real way to know is to chamber cast it.

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    • #3
      sdfire
      CGSSA Associate
      • May 2011
      • 1548

      Do you know anybody in SD that could do that?
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      • #4
        kcstott
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Nov 2011
        • 11796

        Yeah I could
        I'm a little bogged down right now but you could drop it off and in my free time I could cast a chamber slug.
        And I have headspace gages too so i could check that as well.

        PM me

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        • #5
          uxo2
          Veteran Member
          • Dec 2008
          • 4003

          Are you sure that's 5.56mm
          Only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you,
          Jesus Christ and the American Soldier.
          One died for your soul; the other for your freedom.
          George Patton

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          • #6
            kcstott
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Nov 2011
            • 11796

            Yeah it almost looks like it was shot out of a 7.62X39 But the shoulder would be further back

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            • #7
              uxo2
              Veteran Member
              • Dec 2008
              • 4003

              Im surprised this hasn't had more responses
              Only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you,
              Jesus Christ and the American Soldier.
              One died for your soul; the other for your freedom.
              George Patton

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              • #8
                BSlacker
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2003
                • 923

                A good chamber cast would be the two cases on the left. It is a screwed up chamber! No centerfire caliber has that profile. The body of the case is not blown up so it started out as a .223 Rem then some dimwit bored the shoulder neck area. It is screwed up. Even if you found out it is some obscure caliber would you want it from the looks of that.
                As far as headspace goes I can see how a low info gunsmith might get a pass on that. There is a edge of the .223 shoulder the gauge didn't fall in. hahahahah
                Last edited by BSlacker; 02-02-2013, 5:24 AM.

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                • #9
                  kcstott
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Nov 2011
                  • 11796

                  Well I'll know for sure today as he's going to bring it by and I get a better look at it.

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                  • #10
                    sdfire
                    CGSSA Associate
                    • May 2011
                    • 1548

                    I've accepted that I will most likely be unable to use this barrel. That's a bummer so I am just interested in finding out what happened , as to possibly learn something and avoid it in the future. That's why the gunsmithing threads are great.
                    My next Meet and Greet, Rally, range trip, or Clean Up in San Diego:
                    www.sdmust.org

                    https://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/...5#post27536285

                    Please protect me from the evil that I see, and the darkness that I cannot.----Rev.Johnson

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                    • #11
                      kcstott
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Nov 2011
                      • 11796

                      Yep the chamber is screwed. looks like someone tried to open it up to something else and didn't clean up the original chamber.

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                      • #12
                        sdfire
                        CGSSA Associate
                        • May 2011
                        • 1548

                        Thanks kcstott for helping me figure it out. I will offer it up for sale so somebody can rechamber it, and use it. It has such a nice bore too. I anybody here is interested send me a pm.
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                        Please protect me from the evil that I see, and the darkness that I cannot.----Rev.Johnson

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                        • #13
                          ar15barrels
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Jan 2006
                          • 57194

                          If you are gonna scrap it, send it my way and I'll fool with it just to see what I can make out of it.
                          I have an old Armalite 5.56 production reamer that might eat through that chrome lining.
                          Randall Rausch

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                          • #14
                            kcstott
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Nov 2011
                            • 11796

                            It ain't chromed.

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                            • #15
                              ar15barrels
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Jan 2006
                              • 57194

                              Originally posted by kcstott
                              It ain't chromed.
                              Thanks.
                              Sdfire was not able to determine that when I asked him about it.
                              I know I can fix it now.
                              Randall Rausch

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