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  • rb765
    Member
    • Feb 2012
    • 466

    Help with stuck Otis cable

    Looking for ideas. I folded the patch wrong into the holder and stuck it into my AR's barrel. It was folded for 9mm so it went into the chamber just fine, but got stuck in the rifling. I'm not sure if this was fortunate or not, but I was using the thinner rimfire cable not the regular centerfire one. I tried twisting the cable to allow the patch holder to unscrew, but it was too tight. Since it is the smaller cable, I might be able to stick a gas welding rod in the barrel next to the cable and push it out, but I am afraid of scratching it. There is not enough room for a wooden dowel. Does anyone have any other suggestions?
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  • #2
    Lessthanperfect
    Junior Member
    • Feb 2011
    • 51

    you shouldn't have a problem with scratching the barrel if you are really worried just smooth out the ends

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    • #3
      SB1964
      Veteran Member
      • Mar 2012
      • 4876

      Man, tough one...How far past the Chamber? Dont force it & dont Scratch your Barrel/Chamber. I tend to get Impatient, so I just STOP. Anyway, you gotta free bump, lemme think!
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      • #4
        Bete Noire
        Senior Member
        • Apr 2008
        • 578

        Burn it

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        • #5
          Mongoblack23
          Senior Member
          • May 2010
          • 774

          disassemble and use needle nose pliers to get a hold of the patch. if that doesn't work, bete noires idea will work, burn out the patch, you wont hurt your rifle... i dont think the welding rod will work because of the binding factor, your might just make a bad situation worse...
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          • #6
            Claybone
            Member
            • Oct 2012
            • 178

            X2... Burn it out , do you have cleaning rods ? A rod will screw on to the eyelet patch the same as the cable and give it a gentle tap.

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            • #7
              rb765
              Member
              • Feb 2012
              • 466

              thanks everyone. I just bought a pencil torch for another project so will give it a try. As far as needle nose, it is too far in. I thought about screwing something onto it, but was afraid of wedging it further.
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              • #8
                el tardo
                Banned
                • Sep 2012
                • 1094

                you can try air pressure but you will need to block off the gas port.
                also fabric swells with liquid,try drying it out to make it smaller so it will pass,
                just ideas without it in front of me.

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                • #9
                  drdarrin@sbcglobal.net
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2011
                  • 2219

                  Originally posted by el tardo
                  you can try air pressure but you will need to block off the gas port.
                  also fabric swells with liquid,try drying it out to make it smaller so it will pass,
                  just ideas without it in front of me.
                  Air pressure is your best bet. About 120 psi should do it. I would resist the urge to put anything else solid down the barrel or to apply any type of heat source until you try the air.
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                  • #10
                    calixt0
                    Senior Member
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 546

                    my thoughts would be something big enough inside diameter to fit the the otis cable through yet small enough to fit in the barrel and tap it out. GENTLY. Good luck.

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                    • #11
                      drdarrin@sbcglobal.net
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2011
                      • 2219

                      Originally posted by calixt0
                      my thoughts would be something big enough inside diameter to fit the the otis cable through yet small enough to fit in the barrel and tap it out. GENTLY. Good luck.
                      Sounds like you are describing a straw and a very thin one at that.

                      OP, did you get it out and if so how?
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                      • #12
                        calixt0
                        Senior Member
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 546

                        Originally posted by drdarrin@sbcglobal.net
                        Sounds like you are describing a straw and a very thin one at that.

                        OP, did you get it out and if so how?
                        yes like a straw is what I'm picturing but I have no idea on how thick the cable is for the otis kits

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                        • #13
                          rb765
                          Member
                          • Feb 2012
                          • 466

                          I like the straw idea, but the cable is double headed, so it would slip past the stuck head and possibly get stuck with the patch also. The air idea was also great, but then I would have to take apart the birdcage. Usually, the cable barely fits the barrel, but since I used the rimfire cable, I have a bit more room. Will try the welding rod to puch it, if not, will probably send it somewhere to have it done. I also messed up a pistol on this range trip, so it has to get fixed first.
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                          • #14
                            SB1964
                            Veteran Member
                            • Mar 2012
                            • 4876

                            I`d tape over the Birdy & Use a rubber tipped Air Nozzle. It should work, it might even be easy!!! WD40 will easily remove tape residue. Would NOT suggest putting any steel into the Bore.
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                            • #15
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                              • Jan 2006
                              • 57151

                              Look at brass tubing.
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