I'm curious, is the C series as UV resistant as the H series? I have been chewing on the idea for some time now to Cerakote my Jeep XJ with the air cure stuff.
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Cerakote, is it really that good???
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Can you offer any info on your prep and coating process? How does a buyer discern one applicator from another? How can I tell if the finish is going to last by reviewing any applicator's process or equipment?Crime rate per 100k peopleOriginally posted by MitchThe architects of the assault weapon bans ... are simply trying to fight the Culture War. And we can't win, not in California anyway because you guys, the ones with the most to lose, refuse to do what you need to do to win the Culture Wars, which is to make Calguns and the gun rights community a truly big tent and stop driving people away simply because they are different from you.
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just get a cerakote certified applicator..Comment
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Yep all Cerakote Factory Certified Applicators should be doing the job as good or better as sending it directly to the Cerakote Factory. Reviewing process and equipment while nice will not give you an idea of the quality of the work since there would be no way of knowing if they are using everything properly and actually doing all the steps. Cerakote Certified Applicators must agree to do the same process as the Cerakote factory does at a minimum to stay certified.
Like I said above also make sure they use a onsite gunsmith, ask what type of warranty they offer for the coating, and look at how many people recommend them.
We provide a 3 year warranty against defects and corrosion because I am very meticulous about prep and even add extra steps beyond what Cerakote requires. I have to date only one firearm come back due to defect not from prepping but because my air dryer mafunctioned and let to much moisture into the air lines (heat cured Cerakote need the moisture level at between 1% to 2%).
Cerakote as a Car Paint?
While there has been several people who actually have used air cure Cerakote to paint their vehicles remember that air cure takes 5 to 7 days to fully cure and applying heat does little to accelerate the process. The UV resistance is almost the same as heat cured Cerakote but air dry has a normal operating temp of 1200 degrees F, so you can paint the engine, headers, exhaust etc as well (Cerakote High Temp, the air cured version, was originally designed for that purpose). I would suggest the popular color Burnt Bronze for your Jeep and Shimmer Gold for the rims
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Didn't realize the C series took 5 to 7 days to fully cure. I had envisioned doing it one or two panels at a time over weekends. Looks like I may have to do it all in one shot and then borrow the wifes car to drive to work for a few days. I've always wanted a car that required about the same level of maintenance on its finish as say, non-stick cookware. Just a quick rub down with a damp sponge maybe once or twice a year just to knock off the larger deposits of mud and bird poop. I think with the Cerakote I may have finally found the ultimate lazy mans paint job....Cerakote as a Car Paint?
While there has been several people who actually have used air cure Cerakote to paint their vehicles remember that air cure takes 5 to 7 days to fully cure and applying heat does little to accelerate the process. The UV resistance is almost the same as heat cured Cerakote but air dry has a normal operating temp of 1200 degrees F, so you can paint the engine, headers, exhaust etc as well (Cerakote High Temp, the air cured version, was originally designed for that purpose). I would suggest the popular color Burnt Bronze for your Jeep and Shimmer Gold for the rims
I actually do like the Burnt Bronze color, although it is getting a bit over played lately. I like it better when mixed with Armor Black, a color I call "More Burnter Bronze". This is my 300 BLK done with a 10:3 mix of Burnt Bronze to Armor Black:
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Do you have a website?YES it is here is a link to a really well done independent field test done on a AR platform ...... it was on a dry AR ...... thats right no lubrication at all.
Cerakote Test
Please post more samples...
Color swatches???"Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed one.
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Let see first...
While you can mix both non metallic and metallic colors in Cerakote just know that you will "dull out" the metallic look of the color. That and not all colors have piqments that are friendly to each other, especially the lighter colors.
All of the metallics will change hue when exposed to different types of light, look at any photo on the Cerakote website of the metallic colors. You will see 10 different hues of the same color just dependent on how the picture was taken.
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unfortunately have been to busy to take the time to setup the website and I am horrible remembering to take pictures ... there is a few posted on yelp.
Yes if you want to see the true color goto the cerakote website:
Cerakote
and find the colors you like and order a sample color swatch, they will mail it for free (no limit on how many different colors you can order at the same time). Remember what you see on the screen and what the color is in real life can be different so the swatch is the best way to see the real color.
The Cerakote website has literally 1000's of pictures in their gallery so if you see something you like any Certified Cerakote Applicator should be able to do it, that is if there is no copyright or trademark issues.Last edited by Gunsmith Dan; 09-22-2013, 9:22 PM.Comment
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Micro Slick a a ceramic based super low friction, anti galling, anti siezing compound that was originally made for coating inside pistons and turbines. It's main function was prevent damage in the case of loss of lubrication to high friction areas that require constant lubrication.
Then they changed the formula a bit so it could be used on firearms and it really works. So here is some of the differences between Micro Slick and Cerakote:
- Heat cured Cerakote has a normal operating temp of 500 F while Micro Slick is at 1200 F (air cured Cerakote has a normal operating temp of 1700 F but is not as hard).
- Cerakote lasted around 2300 hours in the salt spray corrosion test, Micro Slick lasted around 400 hours (same as Nickel or Chrome plating)
- Cerakote is self lubricating when rubbing on parts coated with Cerakote, Micro Slick is a lubricating coating that can rub on bare metal (that is of course if it is smooth)
- Cerakote is designed for hardness and is very wear resistant, Micro Slick is very wear resistant because of being very low friction and is not as hard as Cerakote.
- Cerakote comes in around 60 colors, Micro Slick comes in the color black.
Micro Slick and Cerakote CAN NOT be mixed as they are very different in the base chemicals used, all you get is a colored mess if you do. The majority of people use Micro Slick on internal parts like trigger groups, sears, bolt carriers and bolts because Micro Slick would be to slippery to use it on the outside of the firearm.
hope that answers your questions
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