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  • Cletus-in-CA
    Junior Member
    • Sep 2012
    • 17

    Free-float Barrel Nut dimensions??

    I'm working on a design on a free-float tube, and looking at different barrel nut options. For those of you that have free float tubes that don't use standard barrel nuts: Noveske, Daniel Defense, Wilson Combat, and (dread) ATI.... or any others that I didn't list; can you do me a favor and post the barrel nut dimensions?
    Diameter, end-to-end length, special threading etc. - feel free to throw in a pic if it aids in the description. I want to see which of these might work best for what I'm putting together. It's easier to tailor the attachment method to an existing nut than have a whole new nut design machined. ++ for Wilson Trim and Noveske NSR type that uses a standard hex.
    Also- if any of you can, or know somebody in Nor-Cal / East Bay that can do CAD-CAM design or happens to have a CNC mill in their backyard...
    The only CQB I routinely engage in these days is with kids and dogs who want to sit in my favorite spot during family movie time.
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    Lostsheep
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2010
    • 927

    Originally posted by Cletus-in-CA
    I'm working on a design on a free-float tube, and looking at different barrel nut options. For those of you that have free float tubes that don't use standard barrel nuts: Noveske, Daniel Defense, Wilson Combat, and (dread) ATI.... or any others that I didn't list; can you do me a favor and post the barrel nut dimensions?
    Diameter, end-to-end length, special threading etc. - feel free to throw in a pic if it aids in the description. I want to see which of these might work best for what I'm putting together. It's easier to tailor the attachment method to an existing nut than have a whole new nut design machined. ++ for Wilson Trim and Noveske NSR type that uses a standard hex.
    Also- if any of you can, or know somebody in Nor-Cal / East Bay that can do CAD-CAM design or happens to have a CNC mill in their backyard...
    I have all of the above and I am 8 miles SSE of Drawbridge, what do you need done?

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    • #3
      Cletus-in-CA
      Junior Member
      • Sep 2012
      • 17

      Excellent! Can you message me? It would be easier to describe in an email.
      The only CQB I routinely engage in these days is with kids and dogs who want to sit in my favorite spot during family movie time.

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      • #4
        Cletus-in-CA
        Junior Member
        • Sep 2012
        • 17

        Anyone..... data on the barrel nuts??
        The only CQB I routinely engage in these days is with kids and dogs who want to sit in my favorite spot during family movie time.

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        • #5
          ar15barrels
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Jan 2006
          • 57170

          All the info you need to know about a barrel nut is available right on your ar after you remove the barrel nut.
          All the nut needs to do is hold the barrel into the receiver and allow the gas tube to pass through or over and into the receiver.
          NOTHING ELSE MATTERS so you can make it any shape or size you like.
          Randall Rausch

          AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
          Handguns: www.handgunbarrels.com
          Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
          Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
          Most work done while you wait on a scheduled shop visit.

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          • #6
            jingerale
            Senior Member
            • May 2011
            • 1997

            so, you want to design a new rail, but instead of using the standard barrel nut, you want to use a proprietary one from Noveske or DD?

            May I ask why you don't want to make your design work with what should be considered as the industry "standard" barrel nut. I'm not even gonna ask about the logistics of purchasing a competing manufacturers barrel nuts for your customers.
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            • #7
              Cletus-in-CA
              Junior Member
              • Sep 2012
              • 17

              Originally posted by jingerale
              May I ask why you don't want to make your design work with what should be considered as the industry "standard" barrel nut. I'm not even gonna ask about the logistics of purchasing a competing manufacturers barrel nuts for your customers.
              Other than Troy there are only a few other designs that use a 'standard' nut; mainly because it wasn't intended for a free float tube. As for customers- I only have one and even though he's a jerk... I really like me. What's missing is the greater question of why build my own ?. What I want isn't available, and I'm not overly jazzed with the products that come close. Choices are limited to 4 or 5 designs, while the rest of the market is saturated with tacti-cool quad rails, most of which are (or should be) unneeded for the average gun owner.
              The only CQB I routinely engage in these days is with kids and dogs who want to sit in my favorite spot during family movie time. Even when I used it for work, I never needed that many rails. Maybe some people do, and to each his own. That's the nice thing about the AR: it's versatile and has proven itself to be adaptable to purpose-built applications, which is what I'm working on now.
              To cut my rant and get back to the reason for my inquiry-
              Since what I'm working on isn't for anyone but me, I thought I might save myself time and trouble by using a commercially available bbl nut. Rather than have to go and buy one from every manufacturer (the logistics of which involve picking up a phone, or a few clicks of a mouse, which is more common that the telegraph and mule train these days) I thought I might ask folks to share the bbl nut data, so that I could make a practical design decision. Although I will say at this point, I haven't ruled out making my own barrel nut... steel slugs are surprisingly cheap, and as Randall said in his post - once basic function is covered, design options are limitless.
              The only CQB I routinely engage in these days is with kids and dogs who want to sit in my favorite spot during family movie time.

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              • #8
                ar15barrels
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Jan 2006
                • 57170

                I made my own freefloat tube with scrap materials we had around the shop about 12 years ago.
                The barrel nut is really trivial if you can ID thread to a shoulder.
                Randall Rausch

                AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
                Handguns: www.handgunbarrels.com
                Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                Most work done while you wait on a scheduled shop visit.

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                • #9
                  MUKAK
                  Veteran Member
                  • Apr 2011
                  • 3757

                  u said what u want isnt available? what exactly to u want out of the rail?



                  Originally posted by Cletus-in-CA
                  Other than Troy there are only a few other designs that use a 'standard' nut; mainly because it wasn't intended for a free float tube. As for customers- I only have one and even though he's a jerk... I really like me. What's missing is the greater question of why build my own ?. What I want isn't available, and I'm not overly jazzed with the products that come close. Choices are limited to 4 or 5 designs, while the rest of the market is saturated with tacti-cool quad rails, most of which are (or should be) unneeded for the average gun owner.
                  The only CQB I routinely engage in these days is with kids and dogs who want to sit in my favorite spot during family movie time. Even when I used it for work, I never needed that many rails. Maybe some people do, and to each his own. That's the nice thing about the AR: it's versatile and has proven itself to be adaptable to purpose-built applications, which is what I'm working on now.
                  To cut my rant and get back to the reason for my inquiry-
                  Since what I'm working on isn't for anyone but me, I thought I might save myself time and trouble by using a commercially available bbl nut. Rather than have to go and buy one from every manufacturer (the logistics of which involve picking up a phone, or a few clicks of a mouse, which is more common that the telegraph and mule train these days) I thought I might ask folks to share the bbl nut data, so that I could make a practical design decision. Although I will say at this point, I haven't ruled out making my own barrel nut... steel slugs are surprisingly cheap, and as Randall said in his post - once basic function is covered, design options are limitless.
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                  • #10
                    THEJAPINO
                    Senior Member
                    • Apr 2012
                    • 745

                    Troy/vtac alpha uses a standard barrel nut, so does Samson/Rainier Arms. Maybe a few more I don't know about. I wanna see a triangular shaped ff handguard similar to the PRI but in a smaller diameter. That would be boobs
                    "We got the m*thaf*ckin' champion blood!" - Hunter Pence

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                    • #11
                      couch
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 986

                      Cut the delta ring off your standard barrel nut. Done deal.

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