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  • NRAhighpowershooter
    Super Moderator
    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Jun 2003
    • 6485

    Yet ANOTHER AK Build Question

    OK.. I get to do my pick up on my NDS-3 receiver this Thursday... I have done a lot of reparkerizing on my Garands and 03's and Carbines and such.. can these NDS-3 receiver be parkerized before assembly or does it need the trunion and rivets installed first? I plan on parkerizing the trunion and rear block stock mounts before installing them as I nicked then up a tad getting the rivets.
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  • #2
    jumbopanda
    Calguns Addict
    • Aug 2006
    • 8382

    You can parkerize in any order than you want, but it is best to do the whole thing after final assembly to cover up any small scuffs that might have resulted from the build process.
    Mo' BBs.

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    • #3
      submaniac
      Member
      • Jul 2007
      • 241

      Ummm...if it is an Nodakspud/DCI reciever...I think it is already parkerized. My DCI Yugo receiver already came Parkerized when I got it, so I think that it would be the same on yours as well (unless they only Park'd the Yugos....)

      If it were me (and from my experience parkerizing) you can Park before and after. Meaning if you want to Parkerize each individual part (like trunions or receiver, etc.) you can do that BEFORE assembly. Once you get the entire receiver assembled (say you want to Parkerize the rivets) I would dunk the entire assembled receiver and Parkerize again. Any of the parts that were not parkerized will be Parkerized, and the areas already Parkerized will basically not be effected (they won't change color from what they already are).

      As a specific example, when I did my Mauser receiver, I did not like how the front part of the receiver looked. I simply sanded and polished the front part of the receiver (leaving the rear portion--the part I liked) alone. When I put the thing in the Park tank the front matched the rear. In other words, they came out the same color.
      Many thanks to the AK-Build team...California's version of Khyber pass.

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      • #4
        Bladewurk
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2005
        • 1403

        NDS-3s are blasted from factory but not parked..wait till all test-firing and tweaks are done then finish...
        (quote)"Glocks blow up, SIGs have a high bore axis, Beretta locking blocks break, Ruger is anti-gun, 1911s are unreliable, and HK hates you. Get over it."

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        • #5
          NRAhighpowershooter
          Super Moderator
          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
          • Jun 2003
          • 6485

          ok... so .... where do I get the rivets? and the US made trigger parts? Also I assume that I should get the double hook set-up, correct (Tapco G2 kit? from AK-Builder.com??)? I'll go with a US made stock set from Ironwood.
          oh... and when I get ready I'll gladly pay someone who might be close to me to help me with the rivets
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          • #6
            Ford8N
            Banned
            • Sep 2002
            • 6129

            Originally posted by NRAhighpowershooter
            ok... so .... where do I get the rivets? and the US made trigger parts? Also I assume that I should get the double hook set-up, correct (Tapco G2 kit? from AK-Builder.com??)? I'll go with a US made stock set from Ironwood.
            oh... and when I get ready I'll gladly pay someone who might be close to me to help me with the rivets
            Jake has what you need.

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            • #7
              oaklander
              Banned
              • May 2006
              • 11095

              If it's a Romy kit, the wood can be refinished to look really nice - no need to buy new wood. Get the rivets and G2 (double-hook) from ak-builder.com - he's got good rivets. I used some "bad" rivets once and they started to pull out - so get the good ones from AK-builder.

              I assume you know the 922(r) parts that you need (6):

              Most people do this:

              1) receiver
              2) hammer
              3) trigger
              4) sear
              5) muzzle brake
              6) U.S. pistol grip - or "no" pistol grip (i.e., MMG)

              I would suggest the Wood AK grip, if MMG has any left - I have two of them - and I can't wait to stain them to match my wood!

              Originally posted by NRAhighpowershooter
              ok... so .... where do I get the rivets? and the US made trigger parts? Also I assume that I should get the double hook set-up, correct (Tapco G2 kit? from AK-Builder.com??)? I'll go with a US made stock set from Ironwood.
              oh... and when I get ready I'll gladly pay someone who might be close to me to help me with the rivets

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              • #8
                daves100
                Senior Member
                • Apr 2007
                • 943

                another question

                where do you get the NDS-3 receivers from? Also what is the price on them

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                • #9
                  NRAhighpowershooter
                  Super Moderator
                  CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                  • Jun 2003
                  • 6485

                  Originally posted by daves100
                  where do you get the NDS-3 receivers from? Also what is the price on them


                  $55 shipped to your friendly FFL
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                  • #10
                    M. Sage
                    Moderator Emeritus
                    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                    • Jul 2006
                    • 19759

                    You do want that double-hook kit, but remember that you'll need to add another notch in the trigger hole of the receiver, and make sure that it fits the trigger.

                    If you ask me really nice, I might show you how to turn that cheap G2 trigger (trigger pull = one stage - nothing but creep) into a more useful two-stage trigger.
                    Originally posted by Deadbolt
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                    • #11
                      NRAhighpowershooter
                      Super Moderator
                      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                      • Jun 2003
                      • 6485

                      Originally posted by M. Sage
                      If you ask me really nice, I might show you how to turn that cheap G2 trigger (trigger pull = one stage - nothing but creep) into a more useful two-stage trigger.
                      Pretty, pretty PLEASE with a cherry on top????
                      'Just Don't Point, Squint, and Laugh! '

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                      • #12
                        M. Sage
                        Moderator Emeritus
                        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                        • Jul 2006
                        • 19759

                        Hint: Disassemble an M1 and look closely at the trigger, see how a two-stage is done there. Then compare the M1 trigger to an AK trigger.

                        Break out the Dremel. And put a spacer on the disconnector spring.

                        I figured it out after looking at how a Garand NM trigger worked. AK trigger is almost identical, though you'll never get it to work as nice.
                        Originally posted by Deadbolt
                        "We're here to take your land for your safety"

                        "My Safety?" *click* "There, that was my safety"
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                        • #13
                          Ford8N
                          Banned
                          • Sep 2002
                          • 6129

                          Originally posted by M. Sage
                          Hint: Disassemble an M1 and look closely at the trigger, see how a two-stage is done there. Then compare the M1 trigger to an AK trigger.

                          Break out the Dremel. And put a spacer on the disconnector spring.

                          I figured it out after looking at how a Garand NM trigger worked. AK trigger is almost identical, though you'll never get it to work as nice.



                          I've always wanted to to this.

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                          • #14
                            cartman
                            Member
                            • Feb 2007
                            • 467

                            Originally posted by oaklander
                            If it's a Romy kit, the wood can be refinished to look really nice - no need to buy new wood. Get the rivets and G2 (double-hook) from ak-builder.com - he's got good rivets. I used some "bad" rivets once and they started to pull out - so get the good ones from AK-builder.

                            I assume you know the 922(r) parts that you need (6):

                            Most people do this:

                            1) receiver
                            2) hammer
                            3) trigger
                            4) sear
                            5) muzzle brake
                            6) U.S. pistol grip - or "no" pistol grip (i.e., MMG)

                            I would suggest the Wood AK grip, if MMG has any left - I have two of them - and I can't wait to stain them to match my wood!
                            If my build follows the same 6 us parts you list can i use a imported mag? Also what does a 2 stage trigger do?
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                            • #15
                              M. Sage
                              Moderator Emeritus
                              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                              • Jul 2006
                              • 19759

                              Originally posted by Ford8N



                              I've always wanted to to this.
                              Alright... I'll get off my butt this weekend and take some pics. It's not much to look at, though, so I'll have to put commentary along with it.

                              Basically, you remove the "nose" of the disconnect so that it swings farther forward. You'll have to get it so that it barely touches the hammer before the trigger breaks. Then you'll have to take some material off the hammer shelf for the disconnect, so that the disconnect will let go of it. . Then, you cut the nose off a .22 LR bullet, and put it in the hole in the disconnect for the spring, so the spring has more tension...

                              At least, that's what I did.

                              It ain't much, but it at least lets me know about where the break is going to happen. Much better than it was before I spent all that time grinding on the trigger (on the kitchen counter )
                              Originally posted by Deadbolt
                              "We're here to take your land for your safety"

                              "My Safety?" *click* "There, that was my safety"
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