15 Minute trigger job.

[TATER313]

I looked for online how to do a trigger job, and came across the one where you cut down the hammer spring on the right side to quarter of an inch, and bend the trigger springs in the middle at a 25 degrees like stated. The trigger pull felt a lot lighter, and worked for a little while. i began to have alot of light primer strikes. I went down and picked up a spring kit and replace both springs and no problems ever since.

[CIV Tactical]

what type of gun? To do a proper trigger job on an AR15 and AK47 involves tuning the disconnects and on the AR15 it involves making the sear face a little less positive. Essentially you turn the factory single stage combat triggers into 2 stage sporting type triggers. You have to file down the nose of the disconnect to get it to tip forward more during trigger pull. the disconnect then bumps the hammer completing the first stage then with a few thousandths of pull it snaps. In some cases you have to tune the secondary sear systems and the hammer pad to function properly after tuning the disconnect.

[baih777]

the 15 minute trigger job is for the AR. i have seen those and i used the JP springs instead.

http://www.riflegear.com/p-717-jp-reduced-power-spring-kit.aspx

[Gunsmith Dan]

Anyone who tells someone to either bend or cut springs to modify a spring for a firearm should have bad things done to them, not that I don't appreciate the business but seriously what if you needed to defend yourself?


I wish everyone would ignore youtube and internet post about gun repairs and tweaking unless the poster currently has a gunsmith business or works for one, to much dangerous stuff floating around.

[CC Gunsmithing]

^^^ Or as my instructors told me, when in doubt, DON'T!

[TATER313]

The author of the article probably manufactures the springs lol. It was a easy fix less then$2 to fix.
If you don't try it you won't know if it works

[Gunsmith Dan]

Making springs for a firearm and actually repairing and understanding how all the parts interact is like comparing a guy who makes bolts for a motor and the mechanic that rebuilds motors having the same knowledge and training.

[Dark Sky Solutions]

I did it to try I out. I only bent the springs to 20degrees and cut a bit less off than suggested. It does work. The trigger pull is lighter.

That being said, like gunsmith Dan said, you need to understand the function and process before you fix a "problem".

[CIV Tactical]

Anyone who tells someone to either bend or cut springs to modify a spring for a firearm should have bad things done to them, not that I don't appreciate the business but seriously what if you needed to defend yourself?


I wish everyone would ignore youtube and internet post about gun repairs and tweaking unless the poster currently has a gunsmith business or works for one, to much dangerous stuff floating around.

Much agreed... Cutting and modifying springs is majorly frowned upon in the gunsmithing world. One false little tweek and you can create some serious danger. Ive seen these so called youtube trigger jobs and what not and there nothing close to a real trigger job. I didnt understand this until I took trigger job classes and successfully tuned a few AR and 1911 triggers. Its more work than just polishing faces and what not. I have about 150.00 in tools just to do 1911 triggers. Once you understand about positive, negative and neutral sear engagements and the general function of triggers, its relevant to pretty much all firearms. i like what TATER said about the spring company producing the video. LOL

[LexLuther]

Why not

If you already have the stock springs, why not try it?
If you fail, just toss the springs you screwed and get the jp springs.
If it works well your cost is zero.

If you don't try and just go streight to buying new, you will just have another bunch of crap parts laying around, that you are too cheap to toss and that will eventually wind up on the free/ pay it forward thread...

[TATER313]

Before I started I thought the light primer strike might be a problem. But I wanted to do it exactly as the instructions said. Of coarse trigger pull was less with loss of reliability. Wasn't to worried about one rifle being down, because most of us have more then one weapon. I do believe if I would have cut off less It would have worked. The price of 2 springs was worth my little time and effort that I placed into it.

[FMJBT]

The light primer strikes are due to the standard hammer being too heavy for the cut springs to swing quickly enough. Bob the hammer (Cut the top spur off and round it off) and the light strikes should go away unless you are using certain types of steel cased ammo with really hard primers. Having said that, you are still better off getting a decent aftermarket trigger like RRA or CMMG.

[TATER313]

YouTube does have some good videos as long as its not taking a hammer to it lol. I h
Fairly familiar with the m16/ar platform handle them for many years .

[TATER313]

I wanted to buy more guns before buying a trigger but soon lol

[Gunsmith Dan]

Well like I said before you get what you pay for .... and if it is free advice well .......

If your life and the life of others around you is only worth a few bucks I guess messing with springs to lighten a trigger is a good way to go as any.

FYI most gunsmiths will charge between $50 to $100 for a real trigger job.

A job that does polishing and fine tuning the engagement surfaces in the fire control will do MORE to improve trigger pull without changing how the firearm operates than changing springs ever will.

Messing with the fire control system and ultimately how safely a firearm operates is the one thing on a firearm that will get you in trouble fast. All it takes is one misfire or accidental discharge to ruin your life and most likely someone elses.