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  • 2DoorImpala
    Veteran Member
    • Jun 2009
    • 4698

    5.45x39 Ak Pistol = No No?

    Did a quick search, but I only found one saying its a grey area?
    Is it wise to build one?
    Also as far as building, buying a kit and chopping the barrel down a few inches and re crowning should do it?
  • #2
    Rooftop Voter
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2009
    • 841

    If you do it - don't be surprised when you see a mob coming towards your house with pitchforks & torches!
    I think it was Olympic arms or B West Inc that built a pistol in 7.62x39mm that got the inexpensive steel core ammo banned from import. Don't do it or you'll get the cheap 5.45 banned too
    Last edited by Rooftop Voter; 03-24-2012, 2:28 PM.
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      straykiller
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      • Feb 2010
      • 2573

      no its fine, some people get butt hurt because they think it will get the cheep 5.45x39 banned from import because it would be considered a pistol round but that wont happen. maybe if manufactures were building 5.45x39 pistols and selling them to the masses we might have to worry but an individual building his own gun is not going to change a thing.


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        Homebuilds are not production guns. So, don't worry about it at all. There is no gray area in any law. Laws are written in black and white.
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        • #5
          Rooftop Voter
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2009
          • 841

          Originally posted by straykiller
          no its fine, some people get butt hurt because they think it will get the cheep 5.45x39 banned from import because it would be considered a pistol round but that wont happen. maybe if manufactures were building 5.45x39 pistols and selling them to the masses we might have to worry but an individual building his own gun is not going to change a thing.
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          • #6
            Freagan
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            • Aug 2008
            • 4564

            Originally posted by straykiller
            no its fine, some people get butt hurt because they think it will get the cheep 5.45x39 banned from import because it would be considered a pistol round but that wont happen. maybe if manufactures were building 5.45x39 pistols and selling them to the masses we might have to worry but an individual building his own gun is not going to change a thing.
            I still don't get how they can justify banning the steel core 7.62x39, but M855 is still legal
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            • #7
              ptoguy2002
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              • Jul 2006
              • 3863

              Originally posted by CSACANNONEER
              There is no gray area in any law. Laws are written in black and white.
              The ATF would disagree with you.
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              • #8
                kcstott
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                • Nov 2011
                • 11796

                Originally posted by ptoguy2002
                The ATF would disagree with you.
                The ATF lives and breaths in the gray area. and if you are found to be in the black they with move the light and put you in the gray area.

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                • #9
                  AlexDD
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2007
                  • 906

                  FWIW Looks like Robinson Arms might make a 5.45 pistol.





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                  Last edited by AlexDD; 03-24-2012, 8:52 PM.

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                  • #10
                    00Medic
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2011
                    • 1941

                    Great! Now I want to build 4 of these. Thank you.
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                    • #11
                      kcstott
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                      • Nov 2011
                      • 11796

                      Well if my receiver was not a 7.62X39 I'd do it. But my pistol is going to be 30 cal

                      Here's the funny thing about AP ammo. Nearly any rifle cartridge will blow right through an 3A vest even in a pistol length barrel. So the whole thing of preventing criminals or anyone else of having hand guns that can defeat body armor is BS.

                      You can go out and buy half a dozen different true hand guns that will blow a hole clean through 3A body armor. .460S&W, .500S&W, 7.65 Tokarev .454 casull That I can think of of the top of my head.
                      Last edited by kcstott; 03-24-2012, 9:07 PM.

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                      • #12
                        ke6guj
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                        • Nov 2003
                        • 23725

                        I saw a couple different vendors with 5.45 AKs at SHOT 2012
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                        • #13
                          kcstott
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                          • Nov 2011
                          • 11796

                          Originally posted by ke6guj
                          I saw a couple different vendors with 5.45 AKs at SHOT 2012
                          Rifles or pistols???
                          5.45 in a rifle is common.

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                          • #14
                            ke6guj
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                            • Nov 2003
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                            Originally posted by kcstott
                            Rifles or pistols???
                            5.45 in a rifle is common.
                            I thought that everyone would understand that I was talking about pistols since this thread is about pistols.


                            I saw a couple different vendors with 5.45 AK pistols at SHOT 2012
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                            • #15
                              paratroop
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                              • May 2009
                              • 1743

                              Originally posted by Rooftop Voter
                              I think it was Olympic arms or B West Inc that built a pistol in 7.62x39mm that got the inexpensive steel core ammo banned from import.
                              How much truth is there in this? I always get cheap steel core 7.62X39. Ive only bought non magnetic once to shoot at a range.

                              Oh wait, maybe its just steel jacketed? I might go check it out right now.
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