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  • BigBoyPinoy8/72
    Junior Member
    • Mar 2012
    • 6

    Front Iron sight removal

    I have an AR15, Stag Arms lower and CMMG upper. I'm Trying to replace my ejector port cover and I've taken it to a couple of gunsmith already and they both can't remove the front iron sight. In order for the gunsmith to replace the ejector port cover he must remove the iron sight with the gas block, then remove the barrel lock nut. They both contacted CMMG and both were told to just remove the retaining pin and 2 allen head screws and the iron sight should come off but ti didn't. Do you guys have any other suggestions to remove the iron sight that won't come off. By the way both the gunsmith have used heat to try to remove the sights incase the sight had locktite. Please HELP!!!!
  • #2
    m16
    Veteran Member
    • Aug 2010
    • 2527

    I'm not following you here, why does the gas block need to come off?

    Why can't they just remove the gas tube, loosen the barrel nut and take out the entire barrel with the gas block still installed?

    ETA: might wanna ask to have this moved out of the gallery forum
    Last edited by m16; 03-19-2012, 2:13 PM.
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    • #3
      BigBoyPinoy8/72
      Junior Member
      • Mar 2012
      • 6

      According to the gunsmith in order for the ejector port cover to be replaced the front sight has to be removed. The front sight is holding the gas tube in place which holds the barrel nut in place which the barrel nut is in the way of the retaining pin for the ejector port cover
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      • #4
        BigBoyPinoy8/72
        Junior Member
        • Mar 2012
        • 6

        But for some god forsaking reason the damn front sight won't come off.

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        • #5
          GettoPhilosopher
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2010
          • 1814

          #1: This is the RIFLE GALLERY. It's for pictures of rifles. Ask a mod to move this to the rifle forum.

          #2: If your gunsmith can't remove a gas tube without stripping the entire barrel (a process that takes 30 seconds and requires only a mallet and a punch), feel free to come visit me in SoCal. I'll do the entire job in 5 minutes for you, and I'll charge you a can of Monster. :P

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          • #6
            NiteQwill
            Calguns Addict
            • Dec 2007
            • 6368

            A mallet... Seriously. Front sights take seconds to remove after a few whacks.

            The fate of the wounded rest in the hands of the ones who apply the first dressing.

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            • #7
              GettoPhilosopher
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2010
              • 1814

              Originally posted by NiteQwill
              A mallet... Seriously. Front sights take seconds to remove after a few whacks.
              Not even necessary!

              1: remove the upper from the lower and take out the BCG and charging handle.
              2: use a punch (or small nail) and a mallet to remove the gas tube roll pin.
              3: pull the gas tube back into the upper far enough for the front to clear the gas block.
              4: rotate and pull the gas tube out of the upper towards the muzzle (to the side of the gas block).

              Done.

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              • #8
                QuarterBoreGunner
                Administrator
                CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                • Oct 2005
                • 9389

                Moved to 'GUNSMITHING AND HOW-TO'

                And why the heck does the front sight base need to be removed again? Seriously, GettoPhilosopher laid it all out.

                I'd maybe re-think that particular gunsmith, that said the FSB needed to come off. Just sayin'
                /Chris

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                Everyone and their mums is packin' round here!
                Like who?
                Farmers.
                Who else?
                Farmers' mums.

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                • #9
                  CHS
                  Moderator Emeritus
                  CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                  • Jan 2008
                  • 11338

                  You don't even need to do all that.

                  Just install the ejection port cover from the rear. I've done it at least a dozen times. Works like a charm. Use a pair of needle-nose pliers to remove the microscopic e-clip, but PAY ATTENTION to where it goes because it's small and easy to lose. Then put your finger on the spring, and pull the pin out to the rear. Once it's out, re-install everything the way you removed it. Use a pair of small needle-nose pliers to re-install the e-clip. It helps to put a rubber band around the handle to hold them closed for you.

                  You don't have to even TOUCH anything on the barrel.
                  Please read the Calguns Wiki
                  Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes...Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.
                  --Cesare, Marquis of Beccaria, "On Crimes and Punishment"

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                  • #10
                    GettoPhilosopher
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2010
                    • 1814

                    Originally posted by CHS
                    You don't even need to do all that.

                    Just install the ejection port cover from the rear. I've done it at least a dozen times. Works like a charm. Use a pair of needle-nose pliers to remove the microscopic e-clip, but PAY ATTENTION to where it goes because it's small and easy to lose. Then put your finger on the spring, and pull the pin out to the rear. Once it's out, re-install everything the way you removed it. Use a pair of small needle-nose pliers to re-install the e-clip. It helps to put a rubber band around the handle to hold them closed for you.

                    You don't have to even TOUCH anything on the barrel.
                    Thanks man, I assumed you could do it that way but wasn't going to advise something I'd never tried.

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                    • #11
                      CHS
                      Moderator Emeritus
                      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                      • Jan 2008
                      • 11338

                      Originally posted by GettoPhilosopher
                      Thanks man, I assumed you could do it that way but wasn't going to advise something I'd never tried.
                      When you have the right tools, it's actually SLIGHTLY easier to do it out the front by removing the gas tube and loosening the barrel nut, but going out the back is faster and can be done at home by anyone as long as you're diligent about not losing the microscopic e-clip.

                      Thing is, to go out the front you need a good upper vise block, sturdy vise, barrel nut wrench, armorers block for the front sight and a 1/16" roll pin punch. A little piece of leather and a pair of vice grips makes pulling out the gas tube easier too, especially on an upper with a lot of rounds through it.

                      So yeah, use the rear entrance
                      Please read the Calguns Wiki
                      Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes...Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.
                      --Cesare, Marquis of Beccaria, "On Crimes and Punishment"

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                      • #12
                        five.five-six
                        CGN Contributor
                        • May 2006
                        • 34894

                        I might rethink why you are going to this particular gunsmith

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                        • #13
                          GettoPhilosopher
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2010
                          • 1814

                          Originally posted by CHS
                          ...
                          So yeah, use the rear entrance
                          0_o

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                          • #14
                            BigBoyPinoy8/72
                            Junior Member
                            • Mar 2012
                            • 6

                            Originally posted by CHS
                            You don't even need to do all that.

                            Just install the ejection port cover from the rear. I've done it at least a dozen times. Works like a charm. Use a pair of needle-nose pliers to remove the microscopic e-clip, but PAY ATTENTION to where it goes because it's small and easy to lose. Then put your finger on the spring, and pull the pin out to the rear. Once it's out, re-install everything the way you removed it. Use a pair of small needle-nose pliers to re-install the e-clip. It helps to put a rubber band around the handle to hold them closed for you.

                            You don't have to even TOUCH anything on the barrel.
                            My AR doesn't come with a e clip;( if it was that easy I'd do it my self. But certain tools needed which i don't have.

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                            • #15
                              BigBoyPinoy8/72
                              Junior Member
                              • Mar 2012
                              • 6

                              Thanks for all the help & suggestion fellas. I will try another gunsmith

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