Woodworkers, Finish question

[rojocorsa]

Fellow woodworkers:

I am planning to get rid of that nasty shellac on one of my Mosins. I know to use denatured alcohol to get rid of it.

As you may or may not know, 98% of Soviet Mosins are made of birch wood (that tree is all over the place over there, and its even culturally significant).

Anyhow, birch wood by itself is very light and boring in color.

My question is: Can I stain the stock, and THEN add Boiled Linseed Oil on top of the stain?

My plan B is just to get some poly satin, but if I can use the BLO finish, I'd like to as I think that texture feels good.

I'm not really sure, and the closest thing to a definitive answer I've had was to check the label. Labels have been checked on both BLO and stain cans; I got nothing. Google searches do not answer my specific questions, so I thought I'd ask here.

Thanks

Rojo

[0321jarhead]

We can talk about this tomorrow if you would like.

[rojocorsa]

Thank you.

(Assuming I can get there without a problem). Turns out the damn bay bridge will be closed, so I have to go around).

[r3dn3ck]

The short answer would seem to me to be, put pigment in your BLO. The oil in any stain is the binder for the color, not the actual coloring agent. As such any ol oil you choose to use should work as a carrier if it's thinned sufficiently.

http://woodworking.com/ww/Article/Ma...tain_7512.aspx will splain

before you do that you should read:
http://www.rockler.com/articles/wood-stain-how-to.cfm so you know about dye pigments, powder pigments, etc... and the binder/carrier/color terminology.

It's not hard.

[mark p]

you can go at it several ways, straight stain ,or use an analine dye that lets the wood grain show thru, if the stock is plain and you want to add interest use the dye then go to an artist supply buy a tube of burnt umber paint . use sparingly to add streaks and wood grain burnish and soften with 0000# steel wool then use finnish of your choice i like birchwood casy trueoil takes a little time to apply but is easy to repair the future dings you are bound to get . hope this helps mark

[rojocorsa]

So I have decided to simplify my approach to this. I will not worry so much about the BLO, but....

Can I use the same minwax oil stain and them put tru-oil over that?

[GSwain]

Look into Danish oil?

[rb765]

Here is a finish that get great reviews on another forum. It's Woodstock's Miracle Formula with easy to follow directions:

http://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=331108&highlight=miracle

[mark p]

short answer yes, apply minwax scuff with #0000 steel wool apply true oil with finger tip thin coats only let dry lightly scuff apply again a coat should take 5 min to apply 4-6 coats should get it . when your done if to shiny for your liking you can knock the gloss down steel wool or use rottenstone powder. i do this before hunting season so the flash doesnt spook game then apply a thin coat at the end of the season hope this helps

[cabinetguy]

I would guess you would have problems, as minwax poly is a stain/sealer, so the boiled linseed wont be able to penetrate very well. I would either go with another brand of stain, like old masters or zar (look at lowes or a paint store) that does not have the polyurethane in it, or I would use a dye. Also be prepared for the birch to not take the stain uniformly, maybe test a small section first.

[smoothy8500]

I've had great success using a three step method with staining birch. Oil stains will not penetrate, but an alcohol "spirit stain" will. Using leather dye that have a denatured alcohol base or RIT dye dissolved in alcohol will add color to birch. Google "staining birch stock" and you will get ideas and results. http://www.surplusrifleforum.com/vie...p?f=83&t=83923
The above sight is where I first learned the method.

[sarabellum]

what color would you like?

Hello Rojo, what color would you like? There are all kinds of fun things you can do with your stock. If you want to stay subdued, what do you think about Tung oil followed by some fine steel wool to soften any gloss?