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  • IntoForever
    CGSSA Associate
    • Sep 2010
    • 3891

    Can a PSL flat be bent with an AK jig?

    I didn't see any new info on this using the search button.
    I'm curious if a PSL flat can be bent using a regular AK jig and if there are any problems.

    Please don't tell me there are no flats, that wasn't the question.

    Thanks
    With all this "gun control" talk, I've not heard one politician say how they plan on taking guns from criminals, just law abiding Citizens.

    Originally posted by Nose Nuggets
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    tujungatoes
    Calguns Addict
    • Dec 2006
    • 7942

    On the ak builder jigs, no. You'd need a custom jig. You might talk to RyanSD about that. I still want to know the source of your $50 flat. I've never seen one.
    Last edited by tujungatoes; 02-07-2012, 12:16 PM.
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    • #3
      IntoForever
      CGSSA Associate
      • Sep 2010
      • 3891

      I'll pick one up and see if it's legit or not. I just don't want to drop a link and have people buy a POS. So much for my Japan tour funds unless anyone wants to donate.

      If it says 'tapco' on it, I'll donate it to 69Mach1, I know he loves those.
      With all this "gun control" talk, I've not heard one politician say how they plan on taking guns from criminals, just law abiding Citizens.

      Originally posted by Nose Nuggets
      5 guys, hot damn thats some good eat'n.
      Originally posted by pyromensch
      damn, i duped my own thread...first time i did a poll

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      • #4
        atsaubrey
        Senior Member
        • Mar 2011
        • 522

        Originally posted by tujungatoes
        On the ak builder jigs, no. You'd need a custom jig. You might talk to RyanSD about that. I still want to know the source of your $50 flat. I've never seen one.
        I honestly don't know the dimension differences ect.. Wouldn't the AKBuilder jig with 1.5mm punch possibly work?
        A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. What part of shall not be infringed is hard to understand!?!

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        • #5
          jeff762
          Member
          • Jun 2009
          • 282

          if the top rails are already bent and the side buldges formed, the grasshopper jig might work. but you might have to modify it.

          i'm not a gun nut! i'm a firearms enthusiast!

          "Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake." Napoleon Bonaparte

          "Casualties many; Percentage of dead not known; Combat efficiency; we are winning." (Colonel David M. Shoup, USMC, Tarawa, 21 November 1943.)

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          • #6
            IntoForever
            CGSSA Associate
            • Sep 2010
            • 3891

            Thanks for the info, I'll see if I can find specs on the receivers.
            With all this "gun control" talk, I've not heard one politician say how they plan on taking guns from criminals, just law abiding Citizens.

            Originally posted by Nose Nuggets
            5 guys, hot damn thats some good eat'n.
            Originally posted by pyromensch
            damn, i duped my own thread...first time i did a poll

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            • #7
              tujungatoes
              Calguns Addict
              • Dec 2006
              • 7942

              Anything will need to be modified. The PSL uses a 1.6mm receiver, and the pins on the ak-builder jig that allign the front work off the magwell opening and are caliber specific. A custom Jig would be necessary.


              ...you're not looking at the cold steel solutions website and confusing their $50 blanks with flats are you?
              sigpic
              Originally posted by Dr. Elky
              If your a man who wears white sunglasses, your probably a douche bag
              Originally posted by CSACANNONEER
              I've been know to cross dress and go the other way at certain events.

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              • #8
                Alex$
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2009
                • 1233

                I emailed an exchange with Curtis, the PSL is longer than his jig as mentioned, custom jig is required. He said he isn't interested in dealing with the hassels and bad feelings that customers would have to buy a new jig.

                That being said, if someone finds a flat, please share as I would be interested as well.

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                • #9
                  tujungatoes
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Dec 2006
                  • 7942

                  Originally posted by Alex$
                  I emailed an exchange with Curtis, the PSL is longer than his jig as mentioned, custom jig is required. He said he isn't interested in dealing with the hassels and bad feelings that customers would have to buy a new jig.

                  That being said, if someone finds a flat, please share as I would be interested as well.
                  Not quite true. If you look at one of the romanian psl receivers you'll see that the sheet metal is the same length as any ak. The reinforcement plates that are welded to the rear are what makes it longer. It would require a different punch but the die woud be the same.
                  sigpic
                  Originally posted by Dr. Elky
                  If your a man who wears white sunglasses, your probably a douche bag
                  Originally posted by CSACANNONEER
                  I've been know to cross dress and go the other way at certain events.

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                  • #10
                    Alex$
                    Senior Member
                    • Feb 2009
                    • 1233

                    The psl receiver is 3/4" longer than an RPK 1.5 mm flat, straight from Curtis.

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                    • #11
                      tujungatoes
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Dec 2006
                      • 7942

                      Originally posted by Alex$
                      The psl receiver is 3/4" longer than an RPK 1.5 mm flat, straight from Curtis.
                      The bent sheet metal of the receiver is exactly the same length 10.125"...straight from two of the rifles in my gun room. Here's some pictures to explain...

                      Receivers alligned at the front edge



                      Here's the rear ends. See how they end at the same point and the PSL is extended by the reinforcement plates?



                      Here's another angle to further show what I'm talking about.




                      Curtis knows his sh*t, but in this case I believe he was mistaken.
                      sigpic
                      Originally posted by Dr. Elky
                      If your a man who wears white sunglasses, your probably a douche bag
                      Originally posted by CSACANNONEER
                      I've been know to cross dress and go the other way at certain events.

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                      • #12
                        CptDan
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2011
                        • 519

                        Here we go again, The PSL and a Romy Rcvr are exactly the same length except for the plates attached to the PSL. I had a running discussion with Akamanator over this and I do have photos. The problem with a PSL is the mag hole comes to the edge of the rcvr wall. Which means a flat if bent with that mag hole would crack. Curtis is not goinng to make a PSL flat. The basic box lengths are the same but the mag and fcg are in different positions from a Romy,



                        Romy on the left PSl on the right





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                        • #13
                          Alex$
                          Senior Member
                          • Feb 2009
                          • 1233

                          Originally posted by tujungatoes
                          The bent sheet metal of the receiver is exactly the same length 10.125"...straight from two of the rifles in my gun room. Here's some pictures to explain...

                          Receivers alligned at the front edge



                          Here's the rear ends. See how they end at the same point and the PSL is extended by the reinforcement plates?



                          Here's another angle to further show what I'm talking about.




                          Curtis knows his sh*t, but in this case I believe he was mistaken.
                          Thank you for clueing me in (and others).

                          So if i may pose the same question to you that I asked Curtis, can a RPK flat be used for a PSL? Assuming you have the plates to weld on.

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                          • #14
                            Alex$
                            Senior Member
                            • Feb 2009
                            • 1233

                            Originally posted by CptDan
                            Here we go again, The PSL and a Romy Rcvr are exactly the same length except for the plates attached to the PSL. I had a running discussion with Akamanator over this and I do have photos. The problem with a PSL is the mag hole comes to the edge of the rcvr wall. Which means a flat if bent with that mag hole would crack. Curtis is not goinng to make a PSL flat. The basic box lengths are the same but the mag and fcg are in different positions from a Romy,



                            Romy on the left PSl on the right





                            So with the diferences between available flats and a PSL there would be a lot of welding up and cutting new holes...

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                            • #15
                              IntoForever
                              CGSSA Associate
                              • Sep 2010
                              • 3891

                              I called that place with the $53.00 flat and they are gone. Now I want to make a flat and with sheet metal, I can weld up anything. I just need to make a template and I could probably fab up a sheet metal brake that would be easier to use than a press. Only hard part I see would be any dimples. Toes, can I borrow your PSL? We can put it back together when I'm done!
                              With all this "gun control" talk, I've not heard one politician say how they plan on taking guns from criminals, just law abiding Citizens.

                              Originally posted by Nose Nuggets
                              5 guys, hot damn thats some good eat'n.
                              Originally posted by pyromensch
                              damn, i duped my own thread...first time i did a poll

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