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  • dmceuend
    Member
    • Aug 2011
    • 166

    Suomi build info needed

    I would like to attempt to build one of these.
    Can anyone with experience summerize what will need to be purchased.
    I see the basic parts kit from various sources
    I see 80% reduced id recvrs with flats(hellbox)
    I see hellbox will machine od of bolt and mod firing pin(AR)
    I see Apex sells vented shrouds, barrell extensions,etc...

    Will I need anything else?
    FCG...modified or replaced?

    I was told TNW sold a Suomi kit with the tube and modified bolt.
    Does anyone know if that is true?
    This appears to be a tough one to get my head around,need help.
  • #2
    dustoff31
    Calguns Addict
    • Apr 2007
    • 8209

    Pick up the current issue (20 Jan) issue of Shotgun News. There is an article in there where a guy builds a TNW kit. It answers all your questions and then some.
    "Did I say "republic?" By God, yes, I said "republic!" Long live the glorious republic of the United States of America. Damn democracy. It is a fraudulent term used, often by ignorant persons but no less often by intellectual fakers, to describe an infamous mixture of socialism, miscegenation, graft, confiscation of property and denial of personal rights to individuals whose virtuous principles make them offensive." - Westbrook Pegler

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    • #3
      jamesob
      Veteran Member
      • Jan 2008
      • 4821

      Cfs has kits as well as apex.

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      • #4
        hawaii five-0
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2007
        • 707

        Get a kit with a horizontally cut receiver.TNW sells receiver sections through Apex as well as trigger groups and bolts.Hell box armory sells the tube.The rest is up to you...

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        • #5
          dmceuend
          Member
          • Aug 2011
          • 166

          I found out the HBA reduced id tubes with flats are designed around either an SKS FCG or an AR FCG. Since cheap SKS FCG's are seemingly rare...AR FCG it is!
          Apex sells the semi auto recoil assy and ejection housing and also the semi auto recoil assy. but can you demill and reuse these parts from kit or do they need to be replaced?
          do these stock parts need to be altered?

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          • #6
            hawaii five-0
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2007
            • 707

            TNW sells semi-auto trigger groups that fit right into the gun.The AR trigger group requires mods that are easily visable from outside the weapon.Get on weaponsguild if you are thinking of taking this on.

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            • #7
              sd_shooter
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Dec 2008
              • 14260

              I'm working on this very same project. My current approach:
              - HBA "Original ID" 80% receiver
              - TNW FCG
              - Home made barrel extension (Spruce Aircraft carries the tubing)
              - Modify the bolt to have a spring loaded firing pin (ordered firing pin from BRP Guns)
              - Add a blocking bar to prevent use of "Original ID" bolt

              However this is going to be a difficult build due to removing a lot of material from the receiver (I only have a drill press and a dremel, no milling machine.) It's going to be a huge PITA and will probably take me all year.

              If I were do it all over again, I would simply get the TNW kit. It comes with the new receiver in sections that must be welded together. The add the TNW bolt and FCG.

              Shotgun news has already covered the "hard way" build before and as stated before they show the "easy" build with the TNW kit.

              PS. Anyone interested in buying my HBA receiver?

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              • #8
                dmceuend
                Member
                • Aug 2011
                • 166

                Pm me with rcvr details.

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                • #9
                  dmceuend
                  Member
                  • Aug 2011
                  • 166

                  Thanks for the info. I am looking into TNW's kit. TNW will even pin the mag to 10 rounds for us and include it in the kit.
                  Is this a featureless build when complete? Will a bullet button be required?

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                  • #10
                    sd_shooter
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Dec 2008
                    • 14260

                    Originally posted by dmceuend
                    Thanks for the info. I am looking into TNW's kit. TNW will even pin the mag to 10 rounds for us and include it in the kit.
                    Is this a featureless build when complete? Will a bullet button be required?
                    Yes.
                    No.

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                    • #11
                      paratroop
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2009
                      • 1743

                      I was looking at tackling one of these for a few months, and i finally decided to pull the trigger, and what do you know, i cant find the 80% tnw kits anywhere.
                      Originally posted by Marcus von W.
                      Is that banjo music I hear?
                      "Sporter" is what the drooling toothless inbred albino with the hacksaw thinks his newly created "dear riffel" is.
                      "Bubba" is what he and his ugly and ruined rifle really are.
                      First you are chopping up historic vintage rifles and sticking them in cheap and nasty looking plastic "dildo" stocks that look like some kind of futuristic sex toy that gay space aliens stick up each other's butts.
                      Next thing you know, you think "Deliverance" is a love story.

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                      • #12
                        dmceuend
                        Member
                        • Aug 2011
                        • 166

                        call TNW direct and purchase the kit for 299$ plus shipping.

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                        • #13
                          ATS76
                          Member
                          • Nov 2006
                          • 358

                          I just order a kit. The lead time is about 2 weeks.
                          Last edited by ATS76; 01-23-2012, 2:37 PM.

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                          • #14
                            69Mach1
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                            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                            • Jan 2006
                            • 15032

                            One of the fun-est builds I've ever had. Thanks goes to my friend Caiman for the suggestion and guidance.

                            The TNW kits are the way to go.

                            Make sure all of your parts are there though, especially all of the small parts in the baggie.






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                              Finished in one day.
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