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  • 00Medic
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2011
    • 1941

    Mini 14 help needed.

    Hey everyone. I've got a bit if a problem with an older mini 14 and I was hoping somebody could help me out.

    I brought out my fathers mini he purchased in the mid 80s to get it range ready for some plinking. The first thing I do is try to cycle the bolt and.......nothing. The thing won't budge. I then proceed to soak the living bee geez out if it with clp and let it sit for a few. Go back and try it again and still frozen. I began to think it had been welded shut because it won't even budge a centimeter no matter how much force I use. But after checking for weld spots I see this is not the case.

    To my knowledge it has been sitting for 10+ years without being touched until now. No signs of rust on the action but an itty bit at the front of the barrel.

    Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.
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  • #2
    SVT-40
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Jan 2008
    • 12894

    Use a rubber mallet or similar to knock the bolt open. It's just fused shut with old grease which has turned into glue.
    Poke'm with a stick!


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    • #3
      AragornElessar86
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2010
      • 1735

      Or it could have been reassembled wrong. If you put the recoil spring guide rod in upside down you'll get a similar result. Not that i've done it or anything. ;D
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      • #4
        CRTguns
        Veteran Member
        • Mar 2006
        • 2627

        MOST likely, the piston has rusted to the op rod. Take the stock off first. Then with a punch, hit the op rod as far forward as you can. Banging on the handle can result in a broken handle. Then get you a new piston. Maybe a new oprod if yer lucky to find one.

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        • #5
          00Medic
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2011
          • 1941

          Right on guys. Thanks so much for the input. I'll report back with the cause. Thanks again.
          Originally posted by TeddyBallgame
          I've never understood why any of our Constitutional rights are governed by the very institution they were put in place to protect us from.
          Originally posted by POLICESTATE
          It is not wise to create criminals where none exist. Especially when those newly-minted criminals may or may not be heavily armed with guns you know nothing about.

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          • #6
            swifty
            Senior Member
            • Mar 2008
            • 929

            Check to see if there is a cartridge in the chamber.

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            • #7
              c good
              Veteran Member
              • Oct 2005
              • 2644

              I agree that the piston is most likely stuck in op rod. In this situation you can also use inertia to your advantage. Take the rifle, find some soft grass, holding the barrel firmly in your hand, strike the stock into the ground sharply. This often times will free up the op rod. With the action being frozen forward you won't be able to confirm the chamber is empty from visual inspection so do this with the safety on, so use EXTREME CAUTION. Or if you have an area that is safe and legal to shoot, point it in a safe direction and pull the trigger, thus confirming unloaded cartridge condition. One other way of confirming a safe chamber without being able to inspect from the open action is to take a cleaning rod and measure the distance it goes into the barrel. If it goes all the way down into the bolt/breach face then you are good to go. If it comes up short be careful. HTH c good
              Last edited by c good; 10-21-2011, 8:01 AM.

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              • #8
                five.five-six
                CGN Contributor
                • May 2006
                • 34855

                ruger is very good about supplying parts from the factory

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                • #9
                  swifty
                  Senior Member
                  • Mar 2008
                  • 929

                  Originally posted by c good
                  ...point it in a safe direction and pull the trigger, thus confirming unloaded cartridge condition.
                  The rifle is already not operating correctly, I'd not recommend trying to fire. No sense putting stress on a system that is already jammed shut. Adding a misfire or a hang fire with 10yr old ammo will only make matters worse. I'm sure a brush needs ran through the bore.

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                  • #10
                    c good
                    Veteran Member
                    • Oct 2005
                    • 2644

                    Originally posted by swifty
                    The rifle is already not operating correctly, I'd not recommend trying to fire. No sense putting stress on a system that is already jammed shut. Adding a misfire or a hang fire with 10yr old ammo will only make matters worse. I'm sure a brush needs ran through the bore.
                    How do you run a brush through the bore when the bolt is frozen shut and there is a possible live round in the chamber?

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                    • #11
                      Gem1950
                      Veteran Member
                      • Jun 2008
                      • 2876

                      Get a take-down manual and be careful not to loose the gas port bushing.
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                      • #12
                        swifty
                        Senior Member
                        • Mar 2008
                        • 929

                        Originally posted by c good
                        How do you run a brush through the bore when the bolt is frozen shut and there is a possible live round in the chamber?
                        It's really really hard. That's another reason why a live round should be removed first. Sending a bullet down the barrel first, instead of removing 10yrs of dust and spiders and the unknown, may cause damage to the bore.

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                        • #13
                          dfletcher
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Dec 2006
                          • 14787

                          The problem with removing the action from the stock is that if the hammer isn't back you're not going to be able to pop out the trigger group and remove the action - at least I'm not aware of how to. I agree the piston is probably "gummi-beared" to the front of the op rod and I think a blast of something would work it free. If not a wallop on the op rod handle, how about removing the gas block and tapping its lower to break the connection - or removing the GB top and forend, then nozzling in some lube or break free?
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                          • #14
                            AragornElessar86
                            Senior Member
                            • Oct 2010
                            • 1735

                            How about spraying some WD40 or other solvent/lube down the action and barrel?
                            Wish I was rich instead of so damn good looking.
                            Originally posted by stix213
                            I'll worry about Hannibal Lecter having too many rights when the rest of us get ours in the first place.
                            Originally posted by Just Dave
                            Any American who isn't on a government watch list should be ashamed of themselves.

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                            • #15
                              five.five-six
                              CGN Contributor
                              • May 2006
                              • 34855

                              Originally posted by AragornElessar86
                              How about spraying some WD40 or other solvent/lube down the action and barrel?
                              there is a small gas hole, but I doubt much of that would make it to the op rod

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