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  • huntercf
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    • Aug 2011
    • 3114

    milling machine vs. drill press

    Ok so I have been bitten by the build bug and it isn't going away. I found some 80% AR15 lowers that need some work (want to make AR pistol). I can't invest $2000 in a milling machine, but I was wanting to get a drill press. I was thinking of a variable speed model from home depot. I know it will definitely take longer but time is not a problem for me. Would it be ok to use the drill press and would regular metal bits work for finishing the lower? Also, I have seen milling vices on ebay that claim to turn a drill press into a milling machine, any experience with these? I see 4" and 5".
    Last edited by huntercf; 08-21-2011, 1:10 PM. Reason: added vice question
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    Noobert
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    • Jan 2009
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    It's doable in a drill press, but a mill is much more preferable. You should look into mini mills, like the Sieg X2
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    • #3
      Tripper
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      • Jan 2011
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      Out of curiosity, what about the X1 model?
      is it too limited??
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      • #4
        JagerTroop
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        • Nov 2007
        • 3922

        A drill press is not a mill, plain and simple. The quill of a drill press does not possess the lateral rigidity needed to accurately mill metal. Also, the chuck is not secured properly. It is a tapered press fit that is designed for vertical pressure only.
        It can work for very light materials such as plastic or wood, but you risk injury to self and damage to parts when attempting to mill any metals.
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        • #5
          gunboat
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          • Apr 2008
          • 3288

          JT is right -- the first time that running chuck and tool bit jumps out of that tapered quill will create a bit of bother.
          There are some older drill presses around that have screwed on chucks that will do some light work without spitting the chuck across the room.
          my tuppence

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          • #6
            huntercf
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            • Aug 2011
            • 3114

            Do build parties sometimes have mills to complete lowers? It sounds like I shouldn't use a drill press.
            Gun control is a 1" group at 500 yds!

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            • #7
              freonr22
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              is one like this big enough for lowers?
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              • #8
                2ndHalf
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                • Aug 2011
                • 6

                Hey huntercf,

                I think something like this Grizzly g8689 mini milling machine for $575 would do the trick. You'd also have to get a vice that would mount securely to the mill's table.

                G8689 4" x 16" Mini Milling Machine An affordable and feature packed mill. The G8689 4" x 16" Mini Milling Machine will handle any kind of job up to 1/2" drilling, 1/2" end mills, and 1" facing. This mill features an MT#3 spindle taper, which only accepts MT#3 collets. The variable-speed control and gear drive saves you time and hassle. The G8689 has two speed ranges: low range is 0–1100, high range is 0–2500 RPM. Spindle height on this mill is controlled by two methods. The rapid downfeed works similar to a drill press. The micro downfeed will allow you to make adjustments to 0.001". One full revolution is 0.060". The headstock can be adjusted up and down the column and tilted 45° left or right relative to the table. The limit block can be set when you want to limit the amount of head travel. Repeated hole drilling of the same depth is a perfect use for this feature. Like all of the Grizzly Mills, the G8689 comes with a 1-year warranty covering parts and assuring the unit is free from factory defects. (Consumables are not covered by the warranty.) The G8689 manual was written by our U.S. based Technical Documentation Department and is packed with useful information. The complete and easy-to-read manual makes it easier to assemble and maintain your mill drill. The Grizzly Customer Service and Technical Support Teams are U.S. based. Parts and accessories for the mill may be available online and shipped from the Grizzly parts warehouse in Springfield, MO. Made in an ISO 9001 factory SPECIFICATIONS: Motor: 350W, 110V, single-phase, 4.5A Spindle taper: MT #3 Spindle speeds: Variable, 0–2500 RPM Maximum distance spindle to table: 11-1/2" Max distance spindle-to-column: 6-3/8" Table size: 3-5/8" x 15-3/4" T-slots: 3 @ 1-1/8" centers, 7/16" wide Table travel (longitudinal): 7-5/16" Table travel (cross): 4" Head travel: 7-1/2" Head tilt: 45° L/R Drilling capacity: 1/2" mild steel End milling capacity: 1/2" Face milling capacity: 1" Overall size: 20" W x 20" D x 30-1/4" H Approximate shipping weight: 149 lbs. FEATURES: Two speed ranges on geared drive Spring head return Safety shut-off switch Adjustable depth stop Fine feed head control Clear guard on spindle Rubber chip guards on ways Zero-setting dials Adjustable dovetail ways on column INCLUDES: 3/8" and 1/2" collets 1/2" drill chuck Two T-nuts


                You could also use it to drill accurate holes for fire control group etc. Also I think you could probably resell it for a good percentage of what you paid for it if you decided not to keep it.

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                • #9
                  darkcbr1000rr
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                  • Mar 2009
                  • 119

                  Mill ftw! CNC if possible. Takes me about 20 minutes for setup and about 10 minutes for cycle time. Not too shabby.
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                  • #10
                    Gunsmithing
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                    • Jan 2011
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                    FYI milling vices on turn a drill press into a milling machine does not work it is junk.

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                    • #11
                      nicitaja
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                      • Apr 2005
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                      Originally posted by huntercf
                      Do build parties sometimes have mills to complete lowers? It sounds like I shouldn't use a drill press.
                      The whole concept of a build party for a ar lower has been talked about, but the amount of time just doesnt warrant trying to do a group of people. There are more than a handful of people on this forum that will work with you 1:1 or 1:2 assisting you while you use their mill. Roccobro is one in the Inland Empire, you might want to contact him. I'd offer my mill, but Im in San Diego, and well, thats a drive when someone else is so close.

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