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  • FastFinger
    In Memoriam
    • Aug 2007
    • 2983

    Refinishing advice needed.

    I have a Ruger MKII that I thought I'd clean up a bit. Started with a field strip, but unlike most MKIIs my mainspring pin doesn't come out too easily, in fact I need to use a punch to drive it out. Getting it back in is even harder.

    While securing the frame to knock in the pin I scratched and put a few marks on it. I tried steel wool to smooth out the marks, but no go. I don't think I need to resort to a file, but maybe a Dremel?

    Any tips on how to proceed?
    Also I'll need to re-blue or touch up the blueing in some areas, what's a good blueing agent to use, hopefully available in the Hollywood area, and do you have any blueing tips?

    Thanks!
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    -hanko
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
    CGN Contributor
    • Jul 2002
    • 14174

    Originally posted by FastFinger
    I have a Ruger MKII that I thought I'd clean up a bit. Started with a field strip, but unlike most MKIIs my mainspring pin doesn't come out too easily, in fact I need to use a punch to drive it out. Getting it back in is even harder.

    While securing the frame to knock in the pin I scratched and put a few marks on it. I tried steel wool to smooth out the marks, but no go. I don't think I need to resort to a file, but maybe a Dremel?

    Any tips on how to proceed?
    Also I'll need to re-blue or touch up the blueing in some areas, what's a good blueing agent to use, hopefully available in the Hollywood area, and do you have any blueing tips?

    Thanks!
    Try cloth backed abrasive paper...maybe 220 or 320 grit size.

    I like oxpho blue from Brownells...it's a cold blue that is very nice for touch up stuff. Easy to use and wears well for a cold blue. Before you blue, make sure what you're bluing is completely FREE of dirt/oil/fingerprints/etc. 75 per cent of a good blueing job involves preparation Wear rubber gloves. Get some swabs and pipe cleaners for small parts & a clean scrap t-shirt for big pieces. DO NOT put anything you've used to apply blueing BACK in the bottle if you need more blueing...use a fresh cloth or swab or pipecleaner.

    You can download more info than I can remember from Brownells web site. You picked an ideal gun to practice with.

    -hanko
    True wealth is time. Time to enjoy life.

    Life's journey is not to arrive safely in a well preserved body, but rather to slide in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "holy schit...what a ride"!!

    Heaven goes by favor. If it went by merit, you would stay out and your dog would go in. Mark Twain

    A man's soul can be judged by the way he treats his dog. Charles Doran

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    • #3
      FastFinger
      In Memoriam
      • Aug 2007
      • 2983

      Originally posted by -hanko
      You picked an ideal gun to practice with.

      -hanko
      To be honest I wish I didn't need the practice, but you're right, this is a good candidate to start with.


      I'm somewhat handy with most typical home and car fixes, but I've always shied away from metal work. Maybe because screw-ups can be so permanent.

      But this Ruger is a plinker I've had for years, and for years I've wanted to try a little gunsmithing 101, so this might work out ok.

      Is there any good online resource that has a library of general gunsmith tips, tools to use, techniques etc?


      Thanks for the tips!
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      • #4
        -hanko
        CGN/CGSSA Contributor
        CGN Contributor
        • Jul 2002
        • 14174

        Originally posted by FastFinger
        Is there any good online resource that has a library of general gunsmith tips, tools to use, techniques etc?


        Thanks for the tips!
        www.brownells.com

        -hanko
        True wealth is time. Time to enjoy life.

        Life's journey is not to arrive safely in a well preserved body, but rather to slide in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "holy schit...what a ride"!!

        Heaven goes by favor. If it went by merit, you would stay out and your dog would go in. Mark Twain

        A man's soul can be judged by the way he treats his dog. Charles Doran

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        • #5
          FastFinger
          In Memoriam
          • Aug 2007
          • 2983

          Originally posted by -hanko
          Thanks! Ordered their catalog and a basic gunsmithing book.
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          • #6
            -hanko
            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
            CGN Contributor
            • Jul 2002
            • 14174

            Originally posted by FastFinger
            Thanks! Ordered their catalog and a basic gunsmithing book.
            Don't let a credit card get too close to the catalog

            -hanko
            True wealth is time. Time to enjoy life.

            Life's journey is not to arrive safely in a well preserved body, but rather to slide in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "holy schit...what a ride"!!

            Heaven goes by favor. If it went by merit, you would stay out and your dog would go in. Mark Twain

            A man's soul can be judged by the way he treats his dog. Charles Doran

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            • #7
              ar15barrels
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Jan 2006
              • 57184

              Originally posted by -hanko
              Don't let a credit card get too close to the catalog


              Wiser words have never been spoken.
              Randall Rausch

              AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
              Handguns: www.handgunbarrels.com
              Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
              Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
              Most work done while you wait on a scheduled shop visit.

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              • #8
                NeoWeird
                Veteran Member
                • Dec 2005
                • 3342

                All I have to say is if you think a dremel is a better answer than a hand file then PLEASE stay away from my guns.

                Keep in mind if you have a blued gun and you GOUGED the metal it will require metal removal and that will remove finish. Obiovusly this will make a big spot. Partial refinishing will produce horrible results. Even if finished inthe EXACT same manner as the original finish it will be noticed that it was refinished at one point in time. If you're ever seen painted words that have been painted over you will know that they ALWAYS show through unless properly preped and having the entire thing refinished - this goes for houses, cars, billboards, etc.

                So if you looking for a small spot fix to just blend it in so you have a slightly lighter/darker spot in one tiny spot than shiny metal against a blued gackground then you will be ok, but if you are planning on removing the finish over a small area and then refinish you will end up with a gun that looks like a mulit-colored cow. My advice is leave good enough alone or do the whole thing right the first time and do the WHOLE thing. Another option is of course to remove ALL the finish and get it down to a nice polished shine and have a stainless steel look or a bi-tone look. Another option is also a layered inish like Duracoat or Molyresin.

                Good luck and let us know how it goes out.

                And yes, GREAT advice to keep your credit card away from the Brownells book. It's also a very good idea to keep the catalog away from the bed, desk, and crapper - or anywhere else where heavy thinking while reading is done.
                quemadmodum gladius neminem occidit, occidentis telum est. - Lucius Annaeus
                a sword never kills anybody; it's a tool in the killer's hand.

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                • #9
                  Ghugly
                  Junior Member
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 29

                  Just a thought and probably not useful to the discussion. I've heard, on several occasions, that Ruger is a pretty amazing company to deal with. I've heard of a few people who have sent their guns to Ruger, for out of warranty repair, that got them back refinished to like new condition for very little money. One, in particular, was a MKII pawn shop find that was really in rough shape. He said that when he got it back it looked like a new gun.
                  I won't be insulted, I won't be laid a hand on. I don't do these things to other people, and I require the same from them.
                  --John Wayne from The Shootist

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