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  • ott1
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2009
    • 1882

    Front trunnion repair

    I need someone in socal (LA to OC) who knows how to repair a front trunnion where all three holes on one side were all egged out. Maybe weld and redrill?
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    Last edited by ott1; 07-25-2011, 8:02 PM.
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    tujungatoes
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    • Dec 2006
    • 7942

    "So-cal" is a rather large area. You might wanna be a little more specific.
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    • #3
      nicoroshi
      www.Buildyourownak.info
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      • Jan 2009
      • 3696

      Welding on a front trunnion?
      Sketchy at best IMHO.
      Don't want to weld on a heat treated piece of steel that is holding back 40,000 lb/in2 of pressure unless you normalize, and anneal it afterward.
      Could potentially crack, and potentially send a bolt through your shoulder when fired if it shears the locking lugs.
      I recommend against it unless you know what you're doing.
      Another front trunnion can be purchased easier than replacing body parts.

      EDIT: post some pictures please. If the egging isn't that bad rivets can still hold, and would only be a bit smaller on the exterior as they would fill the egged out section when pressed.
      Last edited by nicoroshi; 07-25-2011, 6:52 PM.

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      • #4
        big ron
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2010
        • 848

        how bad are they egged out?

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          killathrilla
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          • Jul 2010
          • 1330

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          • #6
            CSACANNONEER
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            • Dec 2006
            • 44093

            If not too bad, rivets will expand into the egged out areas and you'll never know the difference. If it's real bad, don't use it at all. If it's questionable, get oversized rivets and you should be GTG.
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            • #7
              ott1
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2009
              • 1882

              I think the egging is pretty bad. Buying another is always an option, but I'm trying to save this matching numbers kit.

              When I said, weld and redrill, I forgot to add re-heattreat the holes or the entire trunnion.

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                nicoroshi
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                • Jan 2009
                • 3696

                Pics please!!!!
                CSA is correct. using a slightly longer rivet will fill the egging, and still have enough meat to form a good rivet head.
                Pictures would be most helpful to allow the builders here to assess the severity of the egging/ chances of saving the trunnion without any welding required.

                EDIT
                Missed your picture in the first post (Oops!)
                Totally savable.
                Slightly longer rivets, and press away.
                I have seen much worse work.
                Last edited by nicoroshi; 07-25-2011, 8:10 PM.

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                • #9
                  ott1
                  Senior Member
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 1882

                  If it's savable and won't be too hard, I may rethink of putting the parts kit up for sale.
                  Last edited by ott1; 07-25-2011, 8:16 PM.

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                  • #10
                    big ron
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                    • Jan 2010
                    • 848

                    why was a drill used?

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                    • #11
                      SJgunguy24
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                      • May 2008
                      • 14849

                      That's why I tell people to let me take care of demilling the kits they bring me. Just use bigger rivets and countersink all of them to increase the surface area the rivet has to grab.
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                      • #12
                        CSACANNONEER
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                        • Dec 2006
                        • 44093

                        Those are not that bad. I doubt that longer rivets are even needed. Personally, I'd just use the standard rivets in an AK Builder rivet set. But, my judgement isn't always what some would call "the best". I've even shot Hotrails' first AK build on more than one occassion.
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                        • #13
                          ott1
                          Senior Member
                          • Mar 2009
                          • 1882

                          Originally posted by big ron
                          why was a drill used?
                          I didn't do the demilling so I don't know.
                          Last edited by ott1; 07-25-2011, 9:07 PM.

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                          • #14
                            Robidouxs
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                            • Dec 2009
                            • 1684

                            Originally posted by big ron
                            why was a drill used?
                            I have demilled many an AK but I am somewhat at a loss how you would egg the trunnion hole. I use a hand drill but my bits bind everytime I hit the trunnion with my bits. Out of curiosity, what bits and tools were you using?
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                            • #15
                              nicoroshi
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                              • Jan 2009
                              • 3696

                              I'm with Big Ron.
                              I punch mine out. No drill needed.

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