Is there a poorman's simple marine coat?

[CharlesV]

Im familiar with Duracoat but im not looking for beautiful or expensive or custom work, just a tough coating i can apply myself to protect a gun from weather/rust/corrosion. Some i could also remove later if i wanted. Something like cosmoline. I feel that oiling isnt enough. I have rifles and pistols to do. Any suggestions?

[uxo2]

Aluma Hyde

[sarge1572]

Duracoat is a paint/epoxy kind of application. It will protect the outer finish, but not the internals.

Cosmoline is a greasy waxy coating that is almost dipping your gun in hot wax and coating EVERYthing, inside and out and is a job removing. The military used to use this for LONG TERM storage of metal items, like weapons.

Which are you looking to do?

[IW378]

alumahyde paint from brownells. User friendly. But like sarge said
it depends on what you are looking to do and if you are looking to match existing finishes

[CharlesV]

In the worst case of potential corrosion i would be looking to store a shotgun on a boat for 2 years but the gun should also remain fully operational. It would be in a case in a boat closet and subject to ocean conditions. In the lightest case, i would be looking to long-term (beyond 1 year) store guns in a safe and the safe wouldnt be tended to regularly. Example of this is i have a 1962 Rem pump .22 that hasnt been fired since around 1980. Its in perfect condition, as new, because i labor over it to clean/oil, clean/oil, clean/oil and i want to stop doing it.

I havent used cosmoline on a gun before because its a ***** to get off of whatever you applied it to. Yet, i dont want Duracoat to change the appearance. I want to keep all guns as they were delivered which is usually blue. So i would want a clear coat that i could apply with spray or brush to all exterior and heavily grease the interior and then leave it be.

Im aware that Aluma Hyde is paint and its not clear either. And then how to remove it later? I need something more like cosmoline which, regardless of color can be rubbed off/removed later. Something like spray-on furniture wax or something of this nature.

Or...what is suggested? Like i say the worst conditions would be a gun on a boat, I doubt any conditions are worse than that, and to maintain the original appearance.

[Sydwaiz]

http://www.imscompany.com Search for "rust preventive" Comes in aerosol cans and different levels of protection depending on how long you are going to store it.

You can also simply use VOC bags.

[nicitaja]

BTW, Sherwin Williams makes a paint that some people even think duracoat is swiped from, Im not saying that, but I have seen it. They sell it for people doing LARGE farm equipment, and well, a corn tractor cant be painted with a paint that is $60 oz. Do some searches on it. Look up "Sherwin Williams Polane", they have multiple versions now, ones for plastic, ones for computer plastic, ones for xrays, and still the one for outdoor farm equipment.

Do your pocket book a favor and save some money. Best bet is to find someone to go in with, since it isnt sold as small, but still, I did it and went in with 5 others for flat black and cant tell the difference over duracoat, but then again, Im not a expert, so I cant say its the same stuff, how can the duracoat guys get away with a 400% mark up if its really the same, so it must be a little different, its not like Sherwin Williams has a retarder and a reducer just like dura coat, oh wait, they do...


ops, just read that you really are not looking for duracoat, o'well, maybe someone else reads the thread and wants an alternative, or maybe when its 1/4 the price you may want to do it. Its been 2 years at least, and when I bought it they didnt have all the variants, so it may not be so different in costs, but I doubt they are close yet.

-John

[CharlesV]

Right....im looking for a non-permament coating and will check out the links above.

Since we are on the topic, does anyone believe in the Mossberg shotgun cases which claim to be airtight? They offer the cases with a marine-coated 500 and im wondering if that is an viable option.

And since we are on that topic, is the marine coat on the Mossberg and the Rem 870 worth paying extra for?

[SJgunguy24]

http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=1164/Product/METAL_COAT_EPOXY

Spray it on, let cure, oil, and store as normal.

[IW378]

You could try and vacumme seal it I guess. That would keep the marine environment out. I'm not sure on the prep before sealing though. Maybe oil the s#$t out of it and toss in a couple of disacant packs or however you spell it.

[steven_m64]

Or...what is suggested? Like i say the worst conditions would be a gun on a boat, I doubt any conditions are worse than that, and to maintain the original appearance.

Skip all of that painting, new finishing, and grease/oil and do something cheap, quick and easy:

store it in VCI bag. it will be protected for years and just pull it out of the bag and its good to go.

Poly Gun Bags are infused with the most advanced VCI formula available
(laboratory tested).
VCI's - Volatile Corrosion inhibitors are used for shipping and storage by the military, bearing, steel and parts industries. Now the technology is available to you, custom made for firearms.
How They Work - A continuous, invisible and harmless rust-inhibiting vapor forms an unnoticeable, microscopic layer of VCI on the metal which protects the metal's total surface (exterior and interior parts, including inside the barrel). This layer instantly evaporates when the gun is removed from the bag.
Specifications - 4 mil, 6 mil or 8 mil polyethylene construction, puncture resistant - nontoxic- reusable. Infused with VCI inhibitors protecting a variety of metals (color - transparent green). Bag provides years of rust and corrosion protection. Heavy duty 6 mil is only available in the rifle bag package, designed for the heavier gun (over 10 pounds).
Uses - Storage, shipping and transporting rifles, pistols, parts kits, etc.
Saves time and money because the bag allows guns to remain in a dry state, with no need to apply and later remove oils or greases..

http://www.polygunbag.com/gunbags.html

they work well, also good for storing ammo in.

[marsco]

Eezox Is a very good product ,google their site they have many different product .
I'm sure you will find something that will fill your needs.

[Woodworker2]

How about one of the corrosion inhibiting sprays from LPS? http://www.lpslabs.com/product_pg/co...Corrosion.html LPS3 might be an option.

An interesting read on this website for controling rust, titled "How can I prevent the accumulation of rust on my boat and its parts?"

http://www.mbcboats.com/FAQs/FAQ.htm#How_can_I_prevent_the_accumulation

[CharlesV]

Thanks...im appreciating all the input here

[CharlesV]

I visited the poly gun site...do any of you use them and can say the claims of preservation are true with no harm to the gun, given that many plastics emit gas corrosive to some materials?

This started because im interested in buying a factory-coated Mossberg 500 for boat use and got to thinking about coatings in general since my gun shop said that coating will still rust, it will just take longer.

Im from SoCal but most of my time is in Malaysia, next to Singapore. Here, rubber, plastic, stainless steel, anything, it all rusts, disentegrates, corrodes very quickly. Tools you buy in a hardware store are already rusted when you buy them brand new. Tropics is the extreme evironment for all materials. Drywall would rot so fast they cant even use it as a building material. Very few people use carpets, mostly its stone/tile/marble floors here. I keep rice in airtight containers but in 3 months its all moldy and rotten anyway. I use airtight containers for all tools and parts but it only slows down the rust. I oil the crap out of everything. So you see where im coming from.

Poly gun bags seem to offer a good solution for any metal items, not just guns, if the claims are true. They claim to perform even better in humid tropics.

So here im am imagining a boat and everything is subjected to salt air 24/7 which just worsens the whole problem.