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**FX-05 Xiuhcoatl** · 07-10-2011, 9:55 PM

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**locosway** · 07-11-2011, 3:33 AM

I'd probably go with a LMT Full Auto BCG or similar product for cheaper than the DPMS. If I was doing a build from the ground up, I would do the Fail Zero (NiB) coating too.

**PANTyRAiD** · 07-11-2011, 3:41 AM

I have the failzero. Not worth the money in my opinion. Im surprised no one has mentioned it yet...The BCM bolt carrier group...They reign king in many peoples mind.

**locosway** · 07-11-2011, 3:50 AM

Originally posted by PANTyRAiD

I have the failzero. Not worth the money in my opinion. Im surprised no one has mentioned it yet...The BCM bolt carrier group...They reign king in many peoples mind.

There's reports of people putting 5k rounds through an un-lubricated rifle that was coated with NiB. How is that not worth it?

**straykiller** · 07-11-2011, 3:51 AM

Originally posted by PANTyRAiD

I have the failzero. Not worth the money in my opinion. Im surprised no one has mentioned it yet...The BCM bolt carrier group...They reign king in many peoples mind.

from what i hear bcm is top notch when it comes to ar's. ive also heard the fail zero's BCG are great, whats your opinion on them specifically? its always good to hear the opinion from someone who has the supposedly "GOOD" stuff.

**PANTyRAiD** · 07-11-2011, 4:03 AM

Well my personal 2 cents is that I would not buy one again. Its a waste of money. I have tried running my rifle dry many times, and I will get a nasty jam sometimes every 2-5 rounds. If I lube it up, it runs great! But if its dry, then sometimes I have to take a hammer to the charging handle to get the damn bolt open...

Like I said, its my 2 cents, and perhaps others have had better luck. Myself however, I will just buy BCM on my next build and call it a day. I will lube it the same anyway, so it really doesnt matter...

**locosway** · 07-11-2011, 4:04 AM

Originally posted by PANTyRAiD

Well my personal 2 cents is that I would not buy one again. Its a waste of money. I have tried running my rifle dry many times, and I will get a nasty jam sometimes every 2-5 rounds. If I lube it up, it runs great! But if its dry, then sometimes I have to take a hammer to the charging handle to get the damn bolt open...

Like I said, its my 2 cents, and perhaps others have had better luck. Myself however, I will just buy BCM on my next build and call it a day. I will lube it the same anyway, so it really doesnt matter...

Is the BCG and upper receiver coated, or just the BCG?

**PANTyRAiD** · 07-11-2011, 4:06 AM

Just the BCG...But the jams happen specifically when the inside of the bolt/lugs are dry. I have tried running the rifle with the outside 4 rails wet, and the inside of the bolt dry, and the nasty jams ensue...

**locosway** · 07-11-2011, 4:09 AM

Originally posted by PANTyRAiD

Just the BCG...But the jams happen specifically when the inside of the bolt/lugs are dry. I have tried running the rifle with the outside 4 rails wet, and the inside of the bolt dry, and the nasty jams ensue...

That's interesting... I've been running grease in my AR up until the other night, when I switched to Froglube. I'm interested to see how that runs compared to the grease which I never had a single problem with.

Anyways, as for the BCG, I'd get a FA one. They're a little stronger and heavier.

**straykiller** · 07-11-2011, 4:10 AM

Originally posted by PANTyRAiD

Well my personal 2 cents is that I would not buy one again. Its a waste of money. I have tried running my rifle dry many times, and I will get a nasty jam sometimes every 2-5 rounds. If I lube it up, it runs great! But if its dry, then sometimes I have to take a hammer to the charging handle to get the damn bolt open...

Like I said, its my 2 cents, and perhaps others have had better luck. Myself however, I will just buy BCM on my next build and call it a day. I will lube it the same anyway, so it really doesnt matter...

always good to hear your opinion, i own no ar, only a lower for 6 months, but ist nice to hear the truth from people who own the product.

**PANTyRAiD** · 07-11-2011, 4:14 AM

Loco, I am going to try the same test soon...Let us know how it works out for you.

Straykiller, I hope you know what you are getting yourself into! Black Rifle Disease has a mortality rate of 100 percent! (for your relationship, your bank account, your time, your sanity...etc)

**locosway** · 07-11-2011, 4:16 AM

Seriously... I've been planning my second AR for a while now, and I don't even know why I need a second one.

**straykiller** · 07-11-2011, 4:35 AM

Originally posted by PANTyRAiD

Loco, I am going to try the same test soon...Let us know how it works out for you.

Straykiller, I hope you know what you are getting yourself into! Black Rifle Disease has a mortality rate of 100 percent! (for your relationship, your bank account, your time, your sanity...etc)

lol dont worry about me im a builder. the disease is caught. its a way stronger affliction. you know the feeling you get after you fire a round out of the gun you just bought? well times that by a thousand when its a gun you assembled yourself. nothing can trump that im not worried about BRD and never will be. what i have is 10,000 times worse and sucks all my money away. but dam is it worth is lol. (SHAKING) NEED MORE TOOLLLLSSS!!!. lol

**CGK60** · 07-11-2011, 6:42 AM

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