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  • #16
    Sky_DiveR
    Veteran Member
    • Dec 2008
    • 3017

    Did you happen to take a look at tujungatoes link to Mach's tutorial? That will tell (show?) you what is required to make a fully functional AK. Also mentioned before is the tools and the help you can get at a build party... even if you have no experience with tools. If you search, you will find alot of different folks (and kids) have built AK's. With the proper tools and help just about anybody can build an AK.

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    • #17
      pepsi2451
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2006
      • 1629

      Originally posted by redking
      So they don't sell "complete" kits?

      and where could I get a receiver... trigger group... and all that other stuff

      I figured I could find a receiver online and do the whole shipping to an FFL thing.
      You can get complete kits minus the receiver and maybe the barrel. The problem is you have to follow 922r which says you can't have more then 10 foreign parts on your rifle. I think the AK has 16 parts that count, the receiver counts as one and if you get a US barrel that also counts as one. A US trigger group counts as three and I think the mag counts a one or two.

      I still say its worth it to build one, just realize there are a other costs to factor in besides the kit and receiver. You can get a trigger group for $20-30, a few bucks for a set of rivets, most kits don't come with mags, if you want to use foreign mags you will probably want a US pistol grip or muzzle attachment. Read up on 922r.

      Nodakspud.com for complete receivers or, if you going to a build party that will have the tools to finish one, you can get a flat and skip the FFL.
      Last edited by pepsi2451; 05-02-2011, 2:00 PM.

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      • #18
        Alex$
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2009
        • 1233

        922 compliance is simple (as amply covered in multiple other threads)

        US magazine body 1
        US magazine spring floor plate 1
        US magazine follower 1
        US receiver 1
        US barrel 1
        ______________________
        total 5

        An AK has 16 parts that count toward 922, so you need a total of 6 parts. You can change a trigger, a disconnect or a hammer very simply and quickly. If you buy a trigger group (hammer, disconnecter and trigger) you can build 3 AKs.

        Now, you can also change buttstock, handgrips, flash hider etc., but at minimum you can use my list above very simply. Just can't use foreign magazines.
        Last edited by Alex$; 05-02-2011, 9:15 PM. Reason: Like a hoser I said spring when I meant floor plate

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        • #19
          bigthaiboy
          Veteran Member
          • Apr 2007
          • 4795

          Originally posted by Alex$
          922 compliance is simple (as amply covered in multiple other threads)

          US magazine body 1
          US magazine spring 1
          US magazine follower 1

          US receiver 1
          US barrel 1
          ______________________
          total 5

          An AK has 16 parts that count toward 922, so you need a total of 6 parts. You can change a trigger, a disconnect or a hammer very simply and quickly. If you buy a trigger group (hammer, disconnecter and trigger) you can build 3 AKs.

          Now, you can also change buttstock, handgrips, flash hider etc., but at minimum you can use my list above very simply. Just can't use foreign magazines.
          If you go this route, you can never attach a magazine with any imported parts on to your rifle, US made magazines only.

          Easiest route to 922(r) is :

          US barrel
          Receiver
          Tapco G2 FCG (3 parts)
          muzzle brake

          Total: 6 parts.

          Life can make you do many things, even kiss a man with a runny nose.

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          • #20
            Alex$
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2009
            • 1233

            Originally posted by bigthaiboy
            If you go this route, you can never attach a magazine with any imported parts on to your rifle, US made magazines only.

            Easiest route to 922(r) is :

            US barrel
            Receiver
            Tapco G2 FCG (3 parts)
            muzzle brake

            Total: 6 parts.
            Which is why I stated that in my post. =)

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            • #21
              bigthaiboy
              Veteran Member
              • Apr 2007
              • 4795

              Originally posted by Alex$
              Which is why I stated that in my post. =)
              Yes, and I saw that, but I thought it wouldn't do any harm to stress the point, since the US magazine route limits the OP's options. Eastern block 10/10s and 10/30s are plentiful, and tend to work more reliably than the offerings from ProMag and Tapco.

              Personally, for safety reasons, I would not mix and match any of the three Eastern Block FCG with US FCG components, as suggested, since the specs are slightly different, and were never designed to be interchangeable.

              Life can make you do many things, even kiss a man with a runny nose.

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              • #22
                AaronHorrocks
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2007
                • 1944

                Originally posted by Alex$
                922 compliance is simple (as amply covered in multiple other threads)

                US magazine body 1
                US magazine spring 1
                US magazine follower 1
                US receiver 1
                US barrel 1
                ______________________
                total 5

                WOAH! Magazine springs are NOT a countable part!
                Originally posted by nick
                Are there any times when you don't have a loaded firearm within reach?
                Originally posted by M. Sage
                I support violence against communists.

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                • #23
                  Alex$
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2009
                  • 1233

                  Originally posted by AaronHorrocks
                  WOAH! Magazine springs are NOT a countable part!
                  You sir are correct, my misnomer, it is the magazine floor that counts as a 922 part. (good catch) I will correct my post.

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                  • #24
                    redking
                    Senior Member
                    • Apr 2011
                    • 549

                    Seems like this is pretty expensive for a "cheap" gun.
                    "It is vain, sir, to extenuate the matter. Gentlemen may cry, peace, peace; but there is no peace. The war is actually begun! The next gale that sweeps from the north will bring to our ears the clash of resounding arms! Our brethren are already in the field! Why stand we here idle? What is it that gentlemen wish? What would they have? Is life so dear or peace so sweet as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery?" - Patrick Henry

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                    • #25
                      Lazyme
                      Member
                      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                      • Apr 2011
                      • 669

                      ...
                      Last edited by Lazyme; 05-07-2016, 10:10 AM.
                      Weeeeeeeee

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                      • #26
                        lelandEOD
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2010
                        • 678

                        Originally posted by AaronHorrocks
                        Well, that's the thing. There isn't any national laws on barrels. The current situation is that the ATF has made thier own determination that they won't allow barrels to be imported anymore.
                        Someone a long time ago told me this sort of thing is the calling card of tyranny... because we can.

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